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byakugan
Apr 21st, 2007, 11:55 PM
Lets hear it, politically incorrect but I want to know.
Who is the most oppressed people on the planet?
Jews, Africans, African-Americans, palestinians, tibet, hippies and many others or my personal vote Native Americans

L
Apr 22nd, 2007, 12:30 AM
I'm thinking African-Americans, though they are symbols of pop-culture nowadays, they still don't get a fair shake from a good amount of people.

Sharingan
Apr 22nd, 2007, 05:05 AM
JEWS all u jews

Darksage
Apr 22nd, 2007, 09:54 AM
Women.

enolex
Apr 22nd, 2007, 12:04 PM
JEWS all u jews
:ranting:
i agree with native american. first we come to their land, second we take their land, third we make them to to special places just for them, fourth they don't even have the same rights as us

Exodi
Apr 22nd, 2007, 04:18 PM
African-Americans and Native-Americans

I agree with Darksage, too. Women, most of all.

byakugan
Apr 22nd, 2007, 05:11 PM
I heard that married company are the newest minority now.

Nori
Apr 22nd, 2007, 05:21 PM
I heard that married company are the newest minority now.

What's married company?

byakugan
Apr 22nd, 2007, 05:24 PM
just people who are married, I meant couples, I have a hangover today

L
Apr 22nd, 2007, 10:18 PM
Hangover must bite.

I guess more people are getting scared of commitment.

enolex
Apr 22nd, 2007, 11:36 PM
yes alot of people are scared of comitment cause of both the responsibility and well for a lack of better word comitment lol

Alister
Apr 23rd, 2007, 01:16 AM
I think that much of the oppression that was ousted in past years has returned with the internet and the anonymity that accompanies it.

Women, black people.

byakugan
Apr 23rd, 2007, 03:47 PM
good point, people can exercise their right to free speech without consequence, but we still have Imus'

still native americans

L
Apr 23rd, 2007, 04:51 PM
Imus wasn't as bad as Kramer.

Darksage
Apr 23rd, 2007, 04:55 PM
good point, people can exercise their right to free speech without consequence, but we still have Imus'

still native americans
How do you figure the Native Americans have been "screwed more" than women, African americans, or the Jews?

L
Apr 23rd, 2007, 05:09 PM
See, no one hates Native Americans, we feel sorry for them, but are too lazy to do anything about it.

We hate Jews, African Americans, and exploit women.

And we'd probably get off our couches to kick the first two's asses and make a porno of the last one.

Suddenly, Native Americans don't have it so bad.

Nori
Apr 23rd, 2007, 05:17 PM
African Americans. Ironic that I'm saying this since I'm black, but that's what I think.

Then there's women...

Darksage
Apr 23rd, 2007, 05:20 PM
African Americans. Ironic that I'm saying this since I'm black, but that's what I think.

Then there's women...
I would think it's a tie between them, because there are female African Americans (and likewise African American Women), so they kinda got double bitchslapped.

L
Apr 23rd, 2007, 05:23 PM
I would think it's a tie between them, because there are female African Americans (and likewise African American Women), so they kinda got double bitchslapped.

Sometimes, there are some African-Americans that act just as stupid as the regular stupid person, yet their stupidity gets amplified by the fact that they're African American, well where I live at least. It's always the Black kids that get in trouble. But I've met a lot that are educated, so, don't get the wrong idea from this message, I r scared of teh Iron.

Darksage
Apr 23rd, 2007, 05:30 PM
Sometimes, there are some African-Americans that act just as stupid as the regular stupid person, yet their stupidity gets amplified by the fact that they're African American, well where I live at least. It's always the Black kids that get in trouble. But I've met a lot that are educated, so, don't get the wrong idea from this message, I r scared of teh Iron.
Yeah. People are stupid. Some just happen to be black, female, white, or whatever

Nori
Apr 23rd, 2007, 05:33 PM
Sometimes, there are some African-Americans that act just as stupid as the regular stupid person, yet their stupidity gets amplified by the fact that they're African American, well where I live at least. It's always the Black kids that get in trouble. But I've met a lot that are educated, so, don't get the wrong idea from this message, I r scared of teh Iron.

I'm not at all. I definitely know stupid black people, but every race, sex, etc has stupid people in them. Just as they all have ugly people, but that's another debate...maybe.

L
Apr 23rd, 2007, 05:36 PM
I'm not at all. I definitely know stupid black people, but every race, sex, etc has stupid people in them. Just as they all have ugly people, but that's another debate...maybe.

It's really bad for them though, my mother, who is Asian, even hates them.

I even say yo dawg, she gets pissed, she stereotypes them all as gangbangers and such.

"Ohhh Cody, you know they're all the same!"

I've stopped talking to her for days on end because of that because it sickens me.

Lest I stray off-topic, I do think it's the worst for black people.

Exodi
Apr 23rd, 2007, 05:44 PM
I've always wondered what people thought about me, since there are all these stereotypes about Black people.

My friend said his mom was 'surprised' when she met me, because I [wear a belt and shirts that fit, lawl. I'm also pretty quiet]. He said she thought all Black guys were all loud and all that......jive.

This is a little off-topic.....but what about the whole "acting black/white" thing (a term I do not like). I've had people tell me that I 'act' pretty white.

You can answer that if you want. I'm sticking with black people having it the worst.

L
Apr 23rd, 2007, 05:47 PM
I think it's looked down upon when white people act black, but it's perfectly acceptable when black people "act white," apparently that's how it goes.

Just another reason blacks don't get what they're owed, people think they act like the shit rappers they see on television.

Nori
Apr 23rd, 2007, 05:50 PM
I think it's looked down upon when white people act black, but it's perfectly acceptable when black people "act white," apparently that's how it goes.

It's not even an issue of white people trying to act black. It's more of an issue of white people trying to act black and doing a horrible job at it.

Sharingan
Apr 24th, 2007, 05:17 PM
NORI WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN ACT BLACK,

black are stereotyped, and the image they potray is because during black panther revolution these motherfuckers tried spredding violence against white folks, shut the fuck up there is no culture of "black" or even people trying to act black, blacks are not "blacks or niggers" they are normal humans. humans who are segregated due to what has happened to them, but because of this dont mean just cause you are black you can go instigating the situation

Exodi
Apr 24th, 2007, 05:46 PM
When white people "act black", they normally act like the rappers and stuff they see on tv. Perhaps this is what Nori meant by them doing a horrible job at it, since all Black people do no act like that. That's how I interpreted that.

Then again, he (she? Sorry, I'm not sure) could mean something else entirely.
Meh.

Nori
Apr 24th, 2007, 05:46 PM
NORI WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN ACT BLACK,

black are stereotyped, and the image they potray is because during black panther revolution these motherfuckers tried spredding violence against white folks, shut the fuck up there is no culture of "black" or even people trying to act black, blacks are not "blacks or niggers" they are normal humans. humans who are segregated due to what has happened to them, but because of this dont mean just cause you are black you can go instigating the situation

Skyline, you honestly are a complete idiot. I don't even know why you're trying to act smart on a subject you have no knowledge of, especially considering I'm talking about people in the United States. I have absolutely have no idea how blacks portray themselves over in Britain, and I honestly don't give a shit.

You actually try to get at me, telling me that I'm wrong about the things that I know about my own race, my culture, and my surroundings. You're a true fool. Since when do blacks not have a culture, since when does life in America not show the way of life for blacks. I honestly don't even know why I responded to your argument. Maybe your use of the word "nigger" caught my eye and I had to respond to your vulgar stupidity in the great attempt of skyline trying to seem educated. Either way, you are completely wrong, as always. Please don't speak again, thank you. =D

When white people "act black", they normally act like the rappers and stuff they see on tv. Perhaps this is what Nori meant by them doing a horrible job at it, since all Black people do no act like that. That's how I interpreted that.

Then again, he (she? Sorry, I'm not sure) could mean something else entirely.
Meh.

And yes, for someone that has some common sense, I was speaking of the way rappers portray blacks in that particular statement.

And I'm a guy...

L
Apr 24th, 2007, 05:51 PM
Not all rappers were bad though, if only Tupac were still alive. Black people actually are one of the races who don't live in a constant euphoric ignorance, they're usually the people who like to burst our bubbles.

Nori
Apr 24th, 2007, 05:55 PM
Not all rappers were bad though, if only Tupac were still alive. Black people actually are one of the races who don't live in a constant euphoric ignorance, they're usually the people who like to burst our bubbles.

Never said they were. Honestly, most rappers are fakes, but the people that like them don't think that. But Tupac is a bad example....

L
Apr 24th, 2007, 05:59 PM
Never said they were. Honestly, most rappers are fakes, but the people that like them don't think that. But Tupac is a bad example....

Not from what I've heard in his songs, they weren't like the stuff now, but, I guess that's my opinion.

I honestly haven't really heard rap in a while.

Darksage
Apr 24th, 2007, 06:07 PM
NORI WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN ACT BLACK
That's actually a good question. Though, stereotypically, black people do behave in a different manner than others.

black are stereotyped
Agreed. But so is everyone else.

and the image they potray is because during black panther revolution these motherfuckers tried spredding violence against white folks
Huh? Never heard of this, but go figure, slaves rebelling against their slave owners. That deems them to be called motherfuckers?

shut the fuck up there is no culture of "black" or even people trying to act black
Culture is a vague word, but African Americans definitey have one.

blacks are not "blacks or niggers" they are normal humans.
This is true.

humans who are segregated due to what has happened to them
Due to superiority complexes; not necessarily what happened to them, but how they were born.

but because of this dont mean just cause you are black you can go instigating the situation
This again is true, though, Nori wasn't saying that just because you're black you can bitch and complain and instigate trouble and then say "black people have been screwed over for all of history and you still wont give us a break?" as a justification. That is obviously wrong, and not a justification of anything.

Sharingan
Apr 25th, 2007, 12:45 PM
Skyline, you honestly are a complete idiot. I don't even know why you're trying to act smart on a subject you have no knowledge of, especially considering I'm talking about people in the United States. I have absolutely have no idea how blacks portray themselves over in Britain, and I honestly don't give a shit.

You actually try to get at me, telling me that I'm wrong about the things that I know about my own race, my culture, and my surroundings. You're a true fool. Since when do blacks not have a culture, since when does life in America not show the way of life for blacks. I honestly don't even know why I responded to your argument. Maybe your use of the word "nigger" caught my eye and I had to respond to your vulgar stupidity in the great attempt of skyline trying to seem educated. Either way, you are completely wrong, as always. Please don't speak again, thank you. =D



And yes, for someone that has some common sense, I was speaking of the way rappers portray blacks in that particular statement.

And I'm a guy...

coming from a guy that thinks that "whole world wants to be black" shut the fuck up, the way you potray your culture ... as some what of unique great thing that we are all trying to cat (copy) you say i have no idea what your talking about hmm lets see. people like you " act hard just cause your black " its PEOPLE like you that should be fucking kicked the shit out of, not inocent people like adam regis who got stabbed, it's all this hip hop bullshit where black people act so hard when there true pussies, not all black people cause black people are just like white people, ONLY HUMANS, it dont make them better just cause there black, or that we should fear them because of their race of the skin.

this is one thing that i get really pissed over, Just cause people in my area are black makes them so fucking divine or better? errr or we gota live in fear incase being robbed by one, hell no. its cause these kids have no idea on how to be human, they see lethal bizzle or these stupid "crews" and think hey, its cool to be what we are lets try being like them, and its cause of this stereotype happens, i Know so many great black people my next door neighbour for instant hes very religous and so caring, But then you got the ones down the alley estates, where just cause of there background they can auto matically act hard... use words that "we cant use" stuff like this fucking pisses me off, and i wont have it from any e-gangster trying to
1. try to imply that everyone wants to be black
2. being black is some what of a hip-hop gangster culture thats "cool"
3. act fucking queered

If you want to argue with me fine hit me, Cause i know your kind to well i've grown up with many of friends who are black and now they realise they are only hurting our and there image to society. so wake up and mature and understand what the fuck you was saying in previous threads, No one wants to copy or be anything there not, esp influences that involve "just black people" wake up its not only a black thing... happening all over sigh... asian people, ms13 ... i could go on.

just dont chat waste



This again is true, though, Nori wasn't saying that just because you're black you can bitch and complain and instigate trouble and then say "black people have been screwed over for all of history and you still wont give us a break?" as a justification. That is obviously wrong, and not a justification of anything.

darksage your right, you know like majority of the area, just cause they are black... they can wear there trousers low they can swear at public bullshit liek this that pisses me off, ITS LIKE THE BITCHED ABOUT FUCKING GETING SLAVED AND now when world has some sort democracy and some sort of non racial problems... these "minority who preach wrong doings" are starting to influence young black men into stupid fucking bullshit, I REPEAT HAVING A FRIEND STABBED IS NOT COOL, but straight away the government bringing shit out like BLACK ON BLACK crime, its just giving the youngsters a more gangster name, " oh look at us were black and were so bad were on news aswell" thats fucked, white folks get murdered and so do asians, but when a black boy who is stabbed its a whole LONDON news paper, but what when our boi died? where was the info, where was the guy who stabbed him, jack shit... this worlds becoming so shit, instead of equal life style, its like if your black, your automatically placed into a lifestyle, either you choose it or discard it, but majority of kids accept it because they find guns and crime cool and find that if they was to discard it they would be pressured by there olders who have chosen the path and rely on there youngers to follow it..


i cant be bothered any more **sigh**


if you dont understand what i have wrote, then im sorry, because when i type of something i feel strong about i forget about to think what i type and some times i might have a type error or something wont make sence.

Nori
Apr 25th, 2007, 03:38 PM
coming from a guy that thinks that "whole world wants to be black" shut the fuck up
When did I ever say that the "whole world wants to be black?" I don't remember ever saying that and none of my posts in this thread or others imply such. I didn't say all white people are trying to act black. I never said how many white people try to act black (or how rap artist act).
the way you potray your culture ... as some what of unique great thing that we are all trying to cat (copy) you say i have no idea what your talking about hmm lets see. people like you " act hard just cause your black " its PEOPLE like you that should be fucking kicked the shit out of, not inocent people like adam regis who got stabbed, it's all this hip hop bullshit where black people act so hard when there true pussies, not all black people cause black people are just like white people, ONLY HUMANS, it dont make them better just cause there black, or that we should fear them because of their race of the skin.
Once again your mind is making you see things that aren't there. I never said anything to portray my culture. Yea my culture is a great thing because it is my culture. Where do you come from with these things. Who the hell is Adam Regis? I don't like hip hop, rap or things of the like. I don't approve of females being called bitches, hoes and things of the like, and I certainly don't approve of people that say killing people is something to be proud of. And how in the hell do you know I "try to act hard." Fool, you don't know me at all. I don't act at all like people in the hip hop industry.
this is one thing that i get really pissed over, Just cause people in my area are black makes them so fucking divine or better?
Why would I give a shit about how people act in your area?
errr or we gota live in fear incase being robbed by one, hell no.
Why do you live in fear, if you do you're a fuckin idiot.
its cause these kids have no idea on how to be human
What the hell is being human? A person is who they are, and that's how they're going to be.
i Know so many great black people my next door neighbour for instant hes very religous and so caring, But then you got the ones down the alley estates, where just cause of there background they can auto matically act hard...
You are such a fool. Very religious. You once again, don't know me very well. I'm a church going person, every Sunday, worshiping God through my music (I am the minister of music/music director at my church. You sound like such a fool, assuming that I fit into the stereotype saying that I'm the one that's making this world wrong. You're just as bad as everyone else, saying bullshit like all of people are the same, and please don't try to dispute it, because your foolish self probably didn't even notice that half the shit you're writing was completely stereotypically and retarded.

use words that "we cant use" stuff like this fucking pisses me off, and i wont have it from any e-gangster trying to
1. try to imply that everyone wants to be black
2. being black is some what of a hip-hop gangster culture thats "cool"
3. act fucking queered
I don't mean to offend, but you're a fucking idiot. Your stupidity is just awesome to me. "Use words we can't use." Why does affect you so much? Once again, I never said that everyone wants to be black (portray themselves like hip-hop artists), I never said how many. There are people who are though, but you're to much of a dumb fuck to see shit with you're own eyes.
Being black for a lot of people is exactly what you said in #2. But once again you're such a fool, you don't realize these things.
And you're 3rd thing, I don't even know what your talking about.

If you want to argue with me fine hit me, Cause i know your kind to well i've grown up with many of friends who are black and now they realise they are only hurting our and there image to society.
You know our kind. Hah, and what kind is that skyline. You don't know me at all, don't make assumption of people that you know absolutely nothing about. Doing so will fuck you up later in life. And no, this isn't me saying that I'm going to get you jumped because of your words.
so wake up and mature and understand what the fuck you was saying in previous threads, No one wants to copy or be anything there not, esp influences that involve "just black people" wake up its not only a black thing... happening all over sigh... asian people, ms13 ... i could go on.
You are the last person that should ever tell anyone to grow up. Honestly reading all the crap you posted in this thread is literally making my eyes blurry. I don't know the people you say you grew up around, and I honestly don't care about the "facts" you think you know. But I will tell you this. You're definitely completely wrong about me, and I can tell by your wording that the above posts were directed totally at me.
But trust me I'm not at all mad at you, because I'm used to your bursts of stupidity on here, and I'm sure this post wont be the last.

Sharingan
Apr 25th, 2007, 04:03 PM
lol who the fucks talking about you? im reffering you to my idea on how dick heads fucking pricks like you act. shut the fuck up you prick, your statements are so totally not even on track, You always relate the source of evidence back to you, Do you have a brain idiot. Re-read what i posted and you will understand instead of trying to overpower me. is that all you can do flame? now every part of your reply has something like " idiot" "grow up"

you claim im scared lmao, Im telling you based on how others feel, you think im scared of them DO YOU EVEN FUCKING KNOW ME PRICK.

Who was talking about you being religous im relating to the cases ive seen. Nothing to do with you. this debate is on my reaction to your claim " trying to act black"

overall why the fuck would any one even want to try act black, but black is not even the name of this culture, its not even all about hip hop, your just fucking stupid nori, get a life and learn to understand information before you get a anger surge and start chating shit, fucking prick you will never understand lol

Nori
Apr 25th, 2007, 04:08 PM
Ugh. I honestly don't even have the patience or the stamina to argue with you about what you just said. I'm done, have a good day.

Sharingan
Apr 25th, 2007, 04:15 PM
Lol :) quits end. good bye :)

Nori
Apr 25th, 2007, 04:21 PM
I guess you can say I'm quiting, but it's not because I don't have anything to say back to you. But arguing with you reminds me of the saying "you can't teach an old dog new tricks." Now you're not literally a dog, but you have your mind shut on things of this matter, so it's a useless argument. Others know where I'm coming from with my statements, but you just don't seem to get it, so I'm not going to stress myself over an argument with a person I don't even know.

Darksage
Apr 25th, 2007, 04:52 PM
darksage your right, you know like majority of the area, just cause they are black... they can wear there trousers low they can swear at public bullshit liek this that pisses me off, ITS LIKE THE BITCHED ABOUT FUCKING GETING SLAVED AND now when world has some sort democracy and some sort of non racial problems... these "minority who preach wrong doings" are starting to influence young black men into stupid fucking bullshit, I REPEAT HAVING A FRIEND STABBED IS NOT COOL, but straight away the government bringing shit out like BLACK ON BLACK crime, its just giving the youngsters a more gangster name, " oh look at us were black and were so bad were on news aswell" thats fucked, white folks get murdered and so do asians, but when a black boy who is stabbed its a whole LONDON news paper, but what when our boi died? where was the info, where was the guy who stabbed him, jack shit... this worlds becoming so shit, instead of equal life style, its like if your black, your automatically placed into a lifestyle, either you choose it or discard it, but majority of kids accept it because they find guns and crime cool and find that if they was to discard it they would be pressured by there olders who have chosen the path and rely on there youngers to follow it.
Sadly that is true, but thats just the media doing its job; not to present its viewers with unbiased, general news, but to give us what we want to see so their rating skyroket. People would rather hear about gang violence or a black person being murdered than a charity fundraiser or something positive.


As for the "acting black" thing, which seems to be what got your fur up, I agree with you in that there is no such thing as "acting black", or acting white, italian, spanish, christian, female, or anything else. But as I said to you on MSN, it's much easier to say that (because people WILL understand what is meant) rather than "behave in such a manner that society stereotypically attributes to African-Americans".

gakekuroi
Apr 25th, 2007, 05:18 PM
womens rights , are pretty good these days at least in North America, world wide yah still lots to improve on. native americans, have better rights then we do in canada, they get free money free education for practically everything , they get lesser sentences for crimes compared to others. Only difference is we took their land and some of that we actually bought or won over in a war sometime ago, i mean even germans lost land after WWI and WWII thats what happens, dont get me wrong we have screwed them over in the past but this is now , they pretty much see something and try to milk it for more benifits or money by pulling things out of there asses(some i do agree with though). Its not our fault if lots of them would rather live off well-fare when they could go do any job they wanted(saying the have the smarts for some jobs because well lets face it we arent all brain surgen material :D) , unlike me they dont have to pay for college or university, the government pays one of the perks;) just like status cards let them get away with things we wouldnt like fishing salmon at certain seasons etc, and that was only suppose to be to feed themselves but now you get lots that just fish 100's then turn around and sell them for profit which isnt what they are suppose to do .... but alas :p I appoligize for my Sh--ty sentence structure today


p.s-jews arent that bad off any more they seem to be the ones bullying the pakkie's these days, and african americans though has greatly improved over the years they still are miss treated , not so bad in canada but you still see it

Exodi
Apr 25th, 2007, 05:45 PM
I guess you can say I'm quiting, but it's not because I don't have anything to say back to you. But arguing with you reminds me of the saying "you can't teach an old dog new tricks." Now you're not literally a dog, but you have your mind shut on things of this matter, so it's a useless argument. Others know where I'm coming from with my statements, but you just don't seem to get it, so I'm not going to stress myself over an argument with a person I don't even know.

Don't worry, I understand what you are saying.

masrur
Apr 28th, 2007, 08:47 AM
Bangladeshis.... We're oppressed by the other sub-continental countries T_T.

enolex
Apr 28th, 2007, 10:23 PM
p.s-jews arent that bad off any more they seem to be the ones bullying the pakkie's these days, and african americans though has greatly improved over the years they still are miss treated , not so bad in canada but you still see it

its very true, in school everyone knows i'm jewish but they see nothing to it (and trust me this is a very christian town, 23000 people and 28 churchs)
but remember i ww1 and ww2 germany tried to invade other countries,and lost so they lose some of there's. with native americans they were invaded, and in the end still lost more land.
and finally i agree (ISRAEL, NOT ALL JEWISH PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!, DUH COUNTRY NOT RELIGION) are bullying the pakkie's and should also stop

byakugan
Apr 29th, 2007, 02:41 AM
and finally i agree (ISRAEL, NOT ALL JEWISH PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!, DUH COUNTRY NOT RELIGION) are bullying the pakkie's and should also stop[/QUOTE]

do you feel that a lot of western jews (jews who do not live in israel) have lost touch or have a hard time relating to the idealogy of israeli citizens?
just curious....

Turaizuru-san
Apr 29th, 2007, 03:19 AM
I can't really say anything on this topic...but I will anyway.

I'm a white male. Apparently I oppress people. Sorry if I oppressed any of you. Reparations for everyone! *hands out cookies and rocket launchers...or was it rockets and cookie launchers? Oh well*

I'm actually slightly native american, which just means my ancestors like to sleep around. Though I can legally use peyote (a hallucinogen) if I become part of the Native American Church =)

gakekuroi
Apr 29th, 2007, 06:49 PM
its very true, in school everyone knows i'm jewish but they see nothing to it (and trust me this is a very christian town, 23000 people and 28 churchs)
but remember i ww1 and ww2 germany tried to invade other countries,and lost so they lose some of there's. with native americans they were invaded, and in the end still lost more land.
and finally i agree (ISRAEL, NOT ALL JEWISH PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!, DUH COUNTRY NOT RELIGION) are bullying the pakkie's and should also stop


Yes that is correct it isnt all them , its like that in almost every circumstance and it isnt just them either, other countries are to blame , I was just using it as an example was all:)

L
Apr 29th, 2007, 09:35 PM
Meh, I haven't really seen Israel in the news as of late.

Darksage
Apr 30th, 2007, 03:12 PM
Israel has been getting its nationality and culture beaten up for thousands of years. They finally decide to fight back and now they're the bad guys? How many Arab countries are there? How many of them have called for the destruction of Israel? How many Jewish countries are there?

They have to fight for what they have left.

gakekuroi
Apr 30th, 2007, 04:44 PM
you guys forget that Israel was just put on the pakkies land because of world war 2,(as a save heaven for them) they took pakkies homes and everything and still do , and if you look at it most pakkies use rocks for weapons where israel is using rockets and guns, very fair fight, then you see israel is also just bulldowsing their houses down and taken more of the pakkies land,

and i never called them bad i was just saying there the ones pushin their weight around these days being the agressor

byakugan
May 2nd, 2007, 01:11 AM
zionism

randomfandom
May 6th, 2007, 08:36 PM
i think most indigenous people had it quite rough when settlers came in, native americans, australian aboriginies, the moriori (who got completly wiped out), the andeans and the maori to name a few, but thats what colonisation means doesn't it? kick everyone else out and set up camp

enolex
May 7th, 2007, 01:45 AM
Israel has been getting its nationality and culture beaten up for thousands of years. They finally decide to fight back and now they're the bad guys? How many Arab countries are there? How many of them have called for the destruction of Israel? How many Jewish countries are there?

They have to fight for what they have left.
i though you were agaisn't me 0.o
oh and byakugon yes i feel that most western jews lose their native touch, but remember we used to be called the wondering jews so lots of people are from everywhere. but my dad is from israel so i'm not one of them

you guys forget that Israel was just put on the pakkies land because of world war 2,(as a save heaven for them) they took pakkies homes and everything and still do , and if you look at it most pakkies use rocks for weapons where israel is using rockets and guns, very fair fight, then you see israel is also just bulldowsing their houses down and taken more of the pakkies land,

and i never called them bad i was just saying there the ones pushin their weight around these days being the agressor
errr...you do know that israel was granted to the jews loong loong ago right? but ya we shouldn't invade more then GOD gave to us. so when they say we took israel, we were kinda getting it back actually

byakugan
May 7th, 2007, 02:15 AM
I have been to Big J and tel aviv as I moved to egypt and that was sort of the sentiment I got

gakekuroi
May 7th, 2007, 07:52 PM
well i didnt know that much, what i was aware of it after WWII we just gave them that place cuase of the holocaust in all... my appoligies my jewish friend:)

enolex
May 7th, 2007, 10:57 PM
well i didnt know that much, what i was aware of it after WWII we just gave them that place cuase of the holocaust in all... my appoligies my jewish friend:)
no prob :), but again israel should learn to stay in its borders and not try and invade more :sweat: sad sad world