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James
Aug 19th, 2005, 09:42 PM
The 360 gets two spins: the $299 non-backwards compatible "Core System" and the $399 package with 20GB HD, controller, headset, HD cables, and remote control.

As the Big Three (Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo) planned their business tactics for the next-generation console wars, none have been willing to divulge their strategies, lest competitors get the scoop. All that was left was for industry media, fans, and analysts to speculate on what would be of the new consoles.

In its quest to get the console out in time for the holiday season, Microsoft hasn't exactly kept the shutters drawn on its secrets regarding its next-gen contribution: the Xbox 360. Pictures of the console surfaced before its debut on MTV, its name was exposed before the company could spin it itself, and the prospect of standard wireless controllers came with no strings attached.

Today, Microsoft laid down new facts about its upcoming console at the Games Convention in Leipzig, and they sounded awfully familiar to analyst predictions and forum posters' speculations.

Microsoft announced that the Xbox 360 will be released in two SKUs, the "Xbox 360 Core System" and the "Xbox 360." The two products will be sold at $299 and $399, respectively. The two systems break down as follows:

Xbox 360 Core System - $299 (299 Euros, 209 GBP)
•Xbox 360 console
•Wired controller
•Detachable faceplate
•Xbox Live Silver membership
•Standard AV cables

Xbox 360 - $399 (399 Euros, 279 GBP)
•Xbox 360 console
•20GB detachable hard drive
•Wireless controller
•Wireless Xbox Live headset
•High-definition AV cables
•Ethernet cable
•Xbox 360 Media Remote Control (limited time)
•Detachable faceplate
•Xbox Live Silver membership

Peter Moore, Xbox corporate vice president of worldwide marketing and publishing, who spoke with GameSpot, reiterated that the Xbox 360 is still on schedule to launch simultaneously in North America, Europe, and Japan this holiday season. Details on the specifics of the Japanese release will be disclosed at this year's Tokyo Game Show, which begins September 16.

Microsoft has confirmed that the "Core System" will not be backwards compatible out-of-the-box. In order to play current-generation Xbox games, owners of the bare-bones system will have to purchase the detachable hard drive. It is unclear whether or not backwards compatibility will work with the smaller-capacity 64MB memory cards.

Moore explained that the idea behind the two choices came from "lessons learned from the first generation [of Xbox], but perhaps more importantly to provide the gamer with choices in pricing as applicable to their gaming habits." In addition, gamers will be able to select from a range of peripherals available at launch:

• Faceplate ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
• Hard Drive (20 GB) ($99.99, 99.99 Euros, 69.99 GBP)
• Memory Unit (64 MB) ($39.99, 34.99 Euros, 22.99 GBP)
• Wireless Networking Adapter ($99.99, 79.99 Euros, 59.99 GBP)
• Wireless Controller ($49.99, 44.99 Euros, 32.99 GBP)
• Play and Charge Kit ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
• Rechargeable Battery Pack ($11.99, 14.99 Euros, 9.99 GBP)
• Controller ($39.99, 34.99 Euros, 24.99 GBP)
• Headset ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
• Universal Media Remote ($29.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP)
• Component HD AV Cable ($39.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP)
• S-Video AV Cable (US) ($29.99)
• SCART AV Cable (Europe) (24.99 Euros, 17.99 GBP)
• VGA HD AV Cable ($39.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP)

It's too early to get a reaction from gamers on Microsoft's pricing plan, but a few analysts privy to the information were able to chime in with their thoughts.

One anonymous analyst who spoke with GameSpot said, "I think tiered pricing makes sense, particularly as Microsoft wants to offer hardcore gamers more-advanced services. $299 is clearly a price leader and headline grabber, but I imagine they initially expect to ship (and sell) a majority of units at the higher price point. Also, with a $299 SKU, they avoid disappointing consumers, who are likely to compare launch pricing with the PS2 in 2000 and original Xbox in 2001."

The analyst adds, "As far as the publishers are concerned, Microsoft needs to make sure that publishers are making games that can be played with or without a hard drive, and I think they are communicating this message."

Michael Pachter, of Wedbush Morgan Securities, wasn't as cheerful. He sees the $299 model as a "publicity stunt." "They're doing it to say they are launching at $299. The hardcore guys will absolutely not buy the $299 model...only a complete idiot would buy the $299 model."

Pachter references Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi's statement saying the PlayStation 3 would "be expensive" as an attempt to "psych Microsoft into charging $399." But, he sees the $399 price point as providing Microsoft with breathing room to lower the price once the PS3 is released, which is projected to be in 2006, or even 2007.

Regarding the release date, Moore said there have been no announcements made primarily for competitive reasons, but also because Microsoft was still monitoring the production flow of the console's components and localization of launch titles. "One thing we won't do is underserve the market and leave retailers high and dry. That never works. That just leaves more people who are P.O.'d at us than happy with us."

There are also still no games that are definitely launch titles. But Moore does outline the strategy Microsoft is approaching. "So much is going to happen in the next couple of months. My view is simple: You need to make sure that you have the key genres covered at launch. Take care of sports, racing, action adventure, fantasy, first-person shooters. I think there are check marks that need to go in boxes to make sure that gamers have games they are looking for in a particular genre. We're still tracking 24 to 40 Xbox 360 games for release before the end of the calendar year. I think you'll see that all the titles we got excited about at E3 are still firmly in that launch window [90 days from the release of the Xbox 360]."

But what about gamers who aren't ready to jump into the next generation? Moore seems pleased with the current success of the original Xbox and doesn't see any price drop with the console. "We're selling all we can get [made]. Our biggest challenge is to meet demand in what is typically a very quiet time of year. So, no, I don't see any plans to change any pricing as we currently stand on the Xbox."

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/08/17/news_6131245.html

Oh My God, 400? Damn.

Swift
Aug 19th, 2005, 09:54 PM
Damn. I can't afford that. And now ay I'll get a $300 piece of shit.

James
Aug 19th, 2005, 09:56 PM
I'll end up buying the 399 one.. After I whore the money.

Deception
Aug 20th, 2005, 12:21 AM
lol that's the price you pay for something that's going to be good. I have mine reserved at 450$(counting tax) at Gamestop

James
Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:53 AM
Actually I was thinking on more wanting a PS3 then a 360. I'll be getting both, but ps3 will have more games that I will want.. (DMC4, Killzone2, etc).. The only thing I would want on 360 is DoA 4 and maybe halo 3.

Darksage
Aug 22nd, 2005, 03:25 AM
Shit man $400+? that's a lot of money

I bet 2 weeks after Christmas it'll be down to $300 :poketoung

James
Aug 22nd, 2005, 03:34 AM
Heh, maybe. I'm waiting for PSP's to go down. I kinda miss mine, almost regret selling it :/.. I'll just rebuy it when I it goes down in pricing.

Yusayoh
Aug 22nd, 2005, 11:37 AM
50 bucks for a wireless controller? DAMN.

CK
Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:43 PM
umm ill just get a ps3 i was gonna get this but its out of my range
id rather spend it on my car

James
Aug 22nd, 2005, 04:09 PM
I think the other new systems are going to be around the same pricing.

Yusayoh
Aug 22nd, 2005, 05:02 PM
What about the revolution?

James
Aug 22nd, 2005, 05:03 PM
We don't even know anything about that right now.. Not even games. It looks sleek and sexy, but thats about it.

Rev
Aug 22nd, 2005, 07:14 PM
Yea i think the ps3 is going to cost 450$ or at least thats what its rumored to be.

James
Aug 23rd, 2005, 12:31 AM
450? Why that damn much.. I think that rumor is false.

gsv
Aug 23rd, 2005, 08:55 AM
I think the PS3 might be cheaper than the 360 to help them compete.

James
Aug 23rd, 2005, 09:02 AM
I'm guessing around 250 - 300 $. That seems what new systems start out at.

Swift
Aug 23rd, 2005, 10:08 AM
I really think all of them will be $300+ just cause the hardware is so much more expensive. Maybe not the Revolution.

I'm thinking I may stayw ith current gen for a bit more, but my X Box controllers are starting to malfunction! After all this time...

James
Aug 23rd, 2005, 10:21 AM
Yeah.. My PS2 is fucked now.. (Disc read error)

Swift
Aug 23rd, 2005, 10:25 AM
I keep buying more and more used controllers(and returning them), but they all fuck up. I'm stuck for now with one that needs to press A really hard to work and one that keeps saying is disconnected. I'm afraid stores might start to reject my returns.

I do this for games too =) I buy used games, keep for 3 month and then return them. Just started this.

Rev
Aug 23rd, 2005, 11:35 AM
on g4 they keep saying that the ps3 costs over 500$ to make and that it wont sell too much cheeper than that.http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=55865 read that if you dont belive me

James
Aug 23rd, 2005, 07:05 PM
Yes, well the ps3 isn't going to be released untill 2006. I highly doubt that price will remain so high when it gets here.

Rev
Aug 23rd, 2005, 07:12 PM
im sure that xbox 360 will be less than the ps3 though. i dobt ps3 will go under 300$

Vol Opt OS
Aug 30th, 2005, 07:01 PM
i bought my xbox360 for 800. comes with 5 games, an extra wi fi controller, monster cables, wi fi adapter, and some other shit. [from gamestop]

i heard that PS3 is also going to be launched at $400, the games for both are about $60.

Revolution day is comming.

James
Aug 30th, 2005, 10:38 PM
Blah shit, this is almost making me have to get a job.

Rev
Aug 31st, 2005, 11:06 AM
Either u spend alot of money or wait alot of time. but yea these systems are expensive. no price released on the revolution yet.

Rev
Aug 31st, 2005, 05:38 PM
i would buy it on the first day if i had the money. but i dont... i owe money for my new comp (the one thats all mine) and my psp. so i guess its going to be a christmas present for me

Al3x
Sep 14th, 2005, 12:24 PM
Wow, Ł210. Not much if you think about it. When the Ps2 came out over here it was Ł200.