death

[Homocide]

how manyof you guys think killing is a crime?

[Rock Solid]

I would only kill someone if they attacked me, came on my property and I don't like the person, or a war. it all depends. but death is a part of life and it happens all the time with animals or humans. put it depends if you are killing someone just for no reason like raping+killing or just you are psychotic or something.-that would be a sin.

[Homocide]

personally I think everybody is gonna die sometime, so why not send them into a better place.....sooner

[LegendGenesis]

It's all pretty much wrong except in self-defense.

[Rock Solid]

if you think about it there is such a thing called "Natural Selection". the strongest live and the weak die. it somewhat applies to humans. except if you look at the bigger picture animals aren't polluting the earth and having "wars".

[Darksage]

Darwin's theory is not meant to apply to murder.

I think it's wrong. even in self-defense I wouldn't, tho I came close once

[Swift]

personally I think everybody is gonna die sometime, so why not send them into a better place.....sooner

Hmm, if it were up to me, I'd ban you from this board. I don't like fuckheads, I don't like ignorance, and I don't like ugly people. You apply to all of those.

As if it is a crime, it all depends on where you live. This is not a debate...

[Jester]

homocide, that is sick shit man. you seriously need to get some help. you sound like one of those Columbine people man. killing is bad. would you want someone to kill you? see a psychiatrist, because you sound like a sociopath.

[Darksage]

Yeah, wtf, who says EVERYONE goes to "the better" place anyway"?

[DarkMagicianGrl]

I think killing is wrong in almost every situation. There are ways to defend yourself other than killing.

And if you just wish to kill someone for something they did, perhaps they killed someone themselves and you wish to take revenge and you do...then it makes you no better than the one you killed.

[Chaos Diamonds 3 Tails]

Only sometimes cause' Saddam should DIE!!!!!:lol:

[Chaos Diamonds 3 Tails]

Um, Hellspire, that was Osama Bin Laden.

[Rock Solid]

they have their beliefs as we have our own. Osama bin laden was doing what he thought was right as does the U.S and other countries. the U.S however seems like it should keep its business away from things such as foreign countries because we are over there in Iraq practically making those people follow our government and laws. I don't find it right that other countries other than the US seem to have prices on gas higher than what it is here. honestly I don't think the U.S is getting good reps with anybody especially France. now onto the topic. if people invade your country and try and kill people you should be able to kill them back. or your life will be taken and you will be wondering why. oh and killing is wrong if you go out and just want to kill someone. you might need some help. maybe next time reword it.

[Mystic-Spirit]

Unless you are trying to entertain an objective debate simply to get responses, I will have to agree with others here; you do sound as if you were contemplating killing one or more people. However, let us entertain the idea that you are not and this is an objective question.

Killing is wrong because it goes against the principles of society by breaking the social order, in the respect that you go out and kill your neighbor because he took your newspaper from your lawn in the morning. Self-defense is also not really a justification for killing unless you are in a situation where you can't get out of it as an alternative (and even then you'd get charged for possession of whatever weapon; ie. a gun). Personally, war is not a justification for killing. War is actually a political action that simply allows for controlled instances of dropping norms and mores such as 'killing' for the purpose of pursuing a political action.

I have to get ready for classes, but if you are contemplating doing it, I suggest you talk to someone outside this board such as a counsellor or whatever. Though once again, I think this was all just a misunderstanding based on your wording.

Agree 100% with ^.

[Rev]

i dont think killing is wrong, some things couldnt even live without killing. its the natural order of things. the strong kill the weak,and in most cases the strong eat the weak. but if your talking about humans then its somewhat different. some people dersive to die, if they kill alot of innocent people for no good reasong they deserve to die...its them or us.

[Stevil]

personally I think everybody is gonna die sometime, so why not send them into a better place.....sooner

By better place, I assume you mean a hole in the ground?


I think killing can depend on who'm you're killing, what reason you have for killing, and what t-shirt you are wearing.

[Sharingan]

By better place, I assume you mean a hole in the ground?


I think killing can depend on who'm you're killing, what reason you have for killing, and what t-shirt you are wearing.


if some one killed some one with stevils "trendy" t-shirts i hope they rot in hell the murderer

[Akira Raine]

I think Killing is wrong, but there are few that do deserve to die. I think the people that should die are the people that deserve to taste dirt in their mouth for eternity. People that are scumbags and kill others just for fun or for a sport. Now i'm not saying ALL bad people should die, just the very very very VERY bad ones.

[Darksage]

Well that is what stinks, cause what people consider "really really really really bad" is diferent for everyone.

I don't think any human has the right to take the life of another, no matter what the circumstances are.

[Swift]

Well that is what stinks, cause what people consider "really really really really bad" is diferent for everyone.

I don't think any human has the right to take the life of another, no matter what the circumstances are.

Amen.

[Sharingan]

did anyone think about people who are in pain of disease and dont get to be killed e.g case in uk

[Akira Raine]

DS by really really really really bad i mean a bad that EVERYONE thinks is bad. That every single human being considers as a very bad thing and a thing that makes them a very bad person. Maybe they don't deserve to die, but tehy do deserve some punishment, some kind of torture, or they could die instead of being tortured.

but just to make myself clear.

Torturing=VERY wrong!

[Darksage]

I see. . .
Well by religion I believe that only God has the right to take life away, it's one of the Ten commandments not to kill, so I'll go by that.

[DarkMagicianGrl]

Not even everyone would think 1 person deserves to die. There are always those who feel otherwise.

And I agree with DS. No other human being has the right to take the life of another...NO ONE! no matter what theyve done in their past or are planning on doing

[Rock Solid]

are you kidding me? so you are saying that all those prisoners in jail that killed someone or a bunch of people are to stay in jail? that is a waste of money. it should be this way....you take a life for no real purpose then your life is taken. just because God can take life doesn't mean that we can't send them to hell quicker.....

[Darksage]

You contradict your own statement. You mention murderers, those are people who kill, and I said it was wrong to kill, so they are wrong in the first place.

And who are you to say send them to hell faster? Have you not read the bible? "On the day of the Last Judgement you will see the crowds of sinners who repented entering the gates of Heaven while the good who saw no fault in their ways descend into Hell."
"There will be more rejoicing in Heaven over 1 sinner who repents and enters Heaven than for 99 righteous men who have no need of repentance."
"Thou shalt not kill"

Should I go on?
By killing, you are trying to assume the role of God, and think you can overcome it. That's hubris. If all men are equal, then who gives anyone the right to kill someone else, whether it be a murderer or a court of law?

And as for your remark about keeping them in jail and that it's a waste of money, *shrugs* tell that to the government.

[munga_monkey]

If you kill somone bad things will happen to you and you could go to jail.

[Rock Solid]

nope. never read the bible. I went to church when I was younger and such and that was like during the summer. but now there are just too many points of view on matters like this that I am just going to stay neutral. and on the matter of killing it should only happen when someone tries to kill you.
oh and answer this question...do you believe in every word the bible has to say? honestly there has to be something.

[DyBre]

oops, i voted yes, i ment to vote sometimes..

It depends, if the person is inicent then of course not, if the person has at least any way of defending themself, and theres an intial reason, kill away, but be prepaired because the worst concidquences can fall apon the killer.

[Darksage]

:lol: I fixed your vote ;)

[DyBre]

thanky.... again... whoo... and yes if you kill someone unjustacly, bad things will happen... i.e. Karma or the three fold theory-something 3 times as bad will happen to you

[DarkMagicianGrl]

Yea...the rule of 3 will always bite you in the ass....

I still think its wrong always

[DyBre]

what if the person is stabbing you in the leg, and you just happen to have a gun or knife in yoru hands... you can't alway rule out self defencse... sometimes just injuring a person isn't enought to save yourself.

[DarkMagicianGrl]

Yes....but I would try not to kill them and just badly injure or knock them out. i could never deal with the guilt anyway of killing someone

[DyBre]

yah, I know I would try to do the same, but people panic. . .

and i'm just saying that as in other people, I wouldn't look against someone if they did that, but premeditated murder is in all everyway wrong.

[Rock Solid]

if the person is a real bad person that is out to kill me they will die. I don't care. they deserve it.

[DarkMagicianGrl]

Meh...i suppose it does depend on circumstance...but its still not fair for one human to take the life of another

[Rock Solid]

Meh...i suppose it does depend on circumstance...but its still not fair for one human to take the life of another
if there is a human that is real evil and they want to wipe out the world would you kill him/her? or would you try and make peace with him/her?

[DyBre]

oh, also, if it's survival... like a few people lost in Siberia or something, it's just you have to do what you need to survive...

even if it means killing, eating, and using another human for warmth to survie... thats natural animal instinct there... and if it was neccissay, i say okay

[Rock Solid]

oh, also, if it's survival... like a few people lost in Siberia or something, it's just you have to do what you need to survive...

even if it means killing, eating, and using another human for warmth to survie... thats natural animal instinct there... and if it was neccissay, i say okay
cannibalism....I would rather die then eat another human. that would be nasty. especially if the person has a bunch of fat on them. I don't even want to get into that....but if it is in my best interest I would rather eat bark and plants.

[DyBre]

theres areas in sibera.. where there is nothing... it spreeds longer than america, and it just a frozen desert... there would be nothing else to eat.

[Rock Solid]

are you sure there are no arctic animals or stuff. there is always stuff that is living to eat somewhere.

[DyBre]

there is some... but not many, I was just watching a movie in school, about trains, and one that goes threw there..

they is long areas of no plantlife and hardly any animals go threw, it would take like a week walk threw the area. . . but yah, thers areas with a bunch of animals, and lots of trees

but your at like 0 degree temp there... it wouldn't be that easy to kill an animal unless you've got weapons..

[Rock Solid]

moving back onto the subject. I think that it is a natural way of life for things to die/be killed. you know. fox killing a rabbit, eagle killing a mouse. but the funny thing is that you don't hear about ants, or any wildlife killing each other over stupid things and yet humans kill each other all the time. if humans were like ants we wouldn't have this problem. plus groundhogs, chipmunks, squirrels...the list could go on about animals and bugs and birds that don't really kill each other.

[DyBre]

Because humans are different, what seperates the "homo Sapien" is what it truely like means... man with reason

because no other speicies can reason... and thats what puts us over, and we should not kill eachother, and think about the reason beyond things.

Also thats the point of the book, The Most Dangerous Game

[Rock Solid]

ants can reason. that is why they are more sociable. they work and get things done and don't complain. but the annoying thing is that humans kill deer and such without feeling remorse. it gets on my nerves how humans kill animals and humans argue about humans killing humans. maybe they should start arguing more about humans killing animals....but oh well. once all the animals and forests and land is all taken up it will be too late...humans need to stop fighting amongst each other and thinking about the future.

[Darksage]

Because humans are different, what seperates the "homo Sapien" is what it truely like means... man with reason

because no other speicies can reason... and thats what puts us over, and we should not kill eachother, and think about the reason beyond things.

Also thats the point of the book, The Most Dangerous Game
Technically, we are "homo sapiens sapiens" ;)

[DyBre]

yeah, I remember I had a friend who used to go on and on about that, dumb techincallities.

But yes there are always plenty of certain speicies of animals, that will go and simpily harm or kill another, just so it can get what it wants, but that doesn't mean that humans should have free will to kill.

[Darksage]

Well "Free Will" does mean we can do whatever we want right? So why should killing be excluded from that?

[DyBre]

because every life has meaning. . . homocide shouldn't happen, you shouldn't kill the our own speices...

even though humans are becoming like the deer and how they kill them to lower the numbers so they don't over populate and destroy all their recourses. He need some superiour species to start hunting people in big cities, that would slove it slightly.

Theres no meaning in death.. people shouldn't be killed intentionally unless they choice death, or did truely deserve to be stopped and killed.

[Savage]

The only time it is eligible to kill is either self defense which is practically manslaughter or like..a death sentence.

[Darksage]

See the thread about the Death Penalty: http://forums.otakuworks.com/showthread.php?t=6759

[Shinkouseikatsu]

Since when did killing became right?!

Killing is killing. It became a crime with someone decided to make a law about it.

[escaflowne16]

Since when did killing became right?!

Killing is killing. It became a crime with someone decided to make a law about it.
soo truee :) It can become right /wrong, depend on the current law / how ppl see it

[Shinkouseikatsu]

soo truee :) It can become right /wrong, depend on the current law / how ppl see it
Hey, I'm glad you agree with what I said.

[escaflowne16]

Hey, I'm glad you agree with what I said.
sure :). Planning on killing someone? :D

[Goten4]

Hmm, if it were up to me, I'd ban you from this board. I don't like fuckheads, I don't like ignorance, and I don't like ugly people. You apply to all of those.

As if it is a crime, it all depends on where you live. This is not a debate...

Well then i guess i would get banned too, because i am an ugly person.

[Shinkouseikatsu]

sure :). Planning on killing someone? :D
I was planning on killing you.. lol

[escaflowne16]

I was planning on killing you.. lol
phew...
Thanks god we have thousands of miles between us lol