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Yusayoh
May 1st, 2006, 10:35 PM
What are your thoughts about this? Do you say it with an -A or a -ER? Do you think white people should be able to say the -A one? Etc.

Personally, I think it's just another word like cool etc. I don't understand why some people think it's wrong when a white person says -A (not -ER) but if a black person says it, it's ok. I can kind of understand about the history behind -ER. I also don't understand why people can call white people racial names but if white people do it to them, it's wrong.

Swift
May 1st, 2006, 10:51 PM
agreed.

they take shit too offensively. but i cant say anything about it cause they're too fucking big and buff.

niiiiiiigggga!

i'll say it on here though.

Kimeru
May 1st, 2006, 10:58 PM
It's wrong from both sides, if it was meant in an offensive way; people are just hypocritical, so that's why it looks like it doesn't matter when a black person says it. More like they don't mean it agressively among themselves, usually.

Alister
May 1st, 2006, 11:10 PM
I'd see 'er' as being derogatory/insulting, however if someone says 'nigga' around me, I usually won't think much of it, unless it is completely out of their character.

Of course, I don't say it anyways, as people are easily offended by it.

Nori
May 1st, 2006, 11:32 PM
agreed.

they take shit too offensively. but i cant say anything about it cause they're too fucking big and buff.

niiiiiiigggga!

i'll say it on here though.
Aren't you spanish...black people don't care if spanish people say it.

Anyway, let's here from the black guy. Um, I honestly try as hard as possible not to say the word at all. Sometimes (A lot of times) it slips just because the people I'm around. There's no difference betweens saying nigga or nigger they're still the same word and just as bad as each other. During the times whenever this word was used as a way of saying blacks were ignorant and worthless they definately said both.

But because whites used the word back in the day to demean us they don't want it to come out of your mouths now. That's really the only reason. The thing is that I don't understand is why you worry so much about saying it. If you wanna say it so bad say it, if you get beat up...tuff.

Alister
May 1st, 2006, 11:35 PM
The thing is, 'nigger' coming from a white person is usually said very seriously, however one can say 'nigga' casually, sarcastically, etc, that is the difference (in my mind). But yeah, like nori, I avoid saying either.

Nori
May 1st, 2006, 11:37 PM
You know what annoys me more than the N word though is people that can't say a sentence without half the words coming out being a curse. That just pisses me off.

Yusayoh
May 1st, 2006, 11:40 PM
Same here.
Also if they say "You know what I'm sayin'" all the time. One guy said it 3 times in a row xP

Alister
May 1st, 2006, 11:40 PM
You know what annoys me more than the N word though is people that can't say a sentence without half the words coming out being a curse. That just pisses me off.
*cough*SWIFT*cough*

Jester
May 2nd, 2006, 02:47 PM
I just don't say it, period. I do however thing its unfair to have people preaching equality when you say a racial slur and your a white person- you're like lynched. when your a person of a different ethnicity, its okay.

what the fuck?

also- i'm tired of this politically-correct shit. people are mad because they're being called "black". jeeze, its just a way of classifying someone. were not caucasian, were "white", no one has a problem with that. i mean, i wish it could be "that person over there", but to black people its gonna always be "that white person" and to white people its always gonna be "that black person". i put up with this shit all the time because i live in an inter-city school. what pisses me off the most is how people think theyre "gangsta" and shit here, because its not the ghetto. its an inter-city slum. i wish people would just grow up sometimes though.

KaitenV
May 2nd, 2006, 03:20 PM
I just don't say it, period. I do however thing its unfair to have people preaching equality when you say a racial slur and your a white person- you're like lynched. when your a person of a different ethnicity, its okay.

what the fuck?

also- i'm tired of this politically-correct shit. people are mad because they're being called "black". jeeze, its just a way of classifying someone. were not Caucasian, were "white", no one has a problem with that. i mean, i wish it could be "that person over there", but to black people its gonna always be "that white person" and to white people its always gonna be "that black person". i put up with this shit all the time because i live in an inter-city school. what pisses me off the most is how people think they re "gangsta" and shit here, because its not the ghetto. its an inter-city slum. i wish people would just grow up sometimes though.
Stupid crackers always bitching about some damn shit. <_<
(sorry, I just had to say it :P)

Hehehe, anyway. It's bad to say it, but to quote Tupac: "That's just the way it is." Back in the day, the cracker said it to demean us while he beat us and made us work, thus we get offended when he says it in any form today.

It's not right for anyone to say in any situation because it's a derogatory term, however to quote Tupac again: "That's just the way it is."

Alister
May 2nd, 2006, 03:36 PM
Nigga plz nigga plz dun be callin' me no cracka biiattchch

pmaster4
May 2nd, 2006, 04:10 PM
Why does everyone feel they will get beat up when they say the N word. Where i am from there r many different ethnic groups and we don't avoid sayin the word it’s just not in our vocabulary. The only time u would probably hear it is when someone is quoting a rap tune.

It is a degrading word but it really depends on who is sayin it to u. If a friend somehow says it in a conversation, we will let it slide cause they don't intend it to be offensive to us, however if a total stranger says it to u then u know they mean it in a offensive way

But, sadly, it has become part of today's "cool" slang

Darksage
May 2nd, 2006, 04:55 PM
*cough*SWIFT*cough*
*COUGH*he has never said it before to my knowledge*COUGH*

___

It's just another thing. They laugh and say it jokingly to themselves, and call us cracker and wigga and all that shit and it becomes unfair for us to say it? Bullshit.
Any word can be used derogatorily. who cares.

Mystic-Spirit
May 2nd, 2006, 05:04 PM
I don't think I ever said it or atleast I can't think of the last time I've said it just to avoid conflicts.

I don't know what to say, probably not say it openly, i guess.

Alister
May 2nd, 2006, 05:20 PM
*COUGH*he has never said it before to my knowledge*COUGH*
If you had read the post I quoted, you may have noticed that I was speaking in reference to "can't say a sentence without half of it being swears..." not the N word.

Darksage
May 2nd, 2006, 05:22 PM
If you had read the post I quoted, you may have noticed that I was speaking in reference to "can't say a sentence without half of it being swears..." not the N word.
Ah, that would have been a good idea. XD

Nori
May 2nd, 2006, 05:37 PM
also- i'm tired of this politically-correct shit. people are mad because they're being called "black". jeeze, its just a way of classifying someone. were not caucasian, were "white", no one has a problem with that. i mean, i wish it could be "that person over there", but to black people its gonna always be "that white person" and to white people its always gonna be "that black person".

Yea about the people wanting to be called African Amercians instead of Black. Those people are dumb, and have nothing better to do because they'll still call the white people white and they'll call all the spanish people mexican, so yea those people are slow...

*COUGH*he has never said it before to my knowledge*COUGH*
He was refering to what I said about people who can't say a sentence without cursing in atleast 3/4 of it.

They laugh and say it jokingly to themselves, and call us cracker and wigga and all that shit and it becomes unfair for us to say it?
The only time a white person is called a wigger, atleast that's how it should be is when they try (keyword is try) to act ghetto when everyone no's they're basically rich.

Why does everyone feel they will get beat up when they say the N word. Where i am from there r many different ethnic groups and we don't avoid sayin the word it’s just not in our vocabulary. The only time u would probably hear it is when someone is quoting a rap tune.

It is a degrading word but it really depends on who is sayin it to u. If a friend somehow says it in a conversation, we will let it slide cause they don't intend it to be offensive to us, however if a total stranger says it to u then u know they mean it in a offensive way

But, sadly, it has become part of today's "cool" slang

Fortunately for you, you live in area that doesn't care, but most places do. Also, it hasn't become part of any "cool" slang considering that people are offended when a certain group of people say it, which is the whole purpose of this topic.

pmaster4
May 2nd, 2006, 06:40 PM
can't understand why the guy was getting so upset about a book, i don't think the book was written to offend him. We studied To Kill A Mockingbird in school and that was all about racism and discrimination and me or any other of the black students got upset, it was an excellent book and my personal favorite.

Some people who listen to rap music are really influenced by it and seem to think n is a cool word to say and greet people.

Alister
May 2nd, 2006, 06:52 PM
Not to take this off topic, however

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/nword.html

Thoughts on that?

Yusayoh
May 2nd, 2006, 07:28 PM
I haven't watched the video yet. I'll watch it in a bit.

I also don't know why you'd use a word that you were called by to be offensive as the new slang. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

This is another reason why I don't like rap because of the cussing, what they discuss, and the use of the N-word. Using the N-Word is like saying the F-word every other word or something. No point.

A weird analogy by me:
People are like gum. They're thrown into a new place unwrapped. They're all good until it starts to get bad and they're thrown out. Dead.

What I mean to say by this is maybe this is like a fad or trend that will die out (hopefully).

I also hate how people think they're gangster. My friend's sister acted this way and it got on my nerves. Finally, she was sent to a girl's camp. Lmfao. xP

pmaster4
May 2nd, 2006, 07:30 PM
in relation to the video the teacher is wrong and should not have used it then again u got to blame the people who glorify the n word as part of today's slang. The fact is it's a degrading word and using it as slang only gives others a reason to use it on u, they can't remove the teacher since in a sense (in terms as n as a slang) he has nothing wrong.

I think if someone calls u an n without knowing u they mean it in a degrading way, it they r your friends and use it, it can only mean they heard u using it as slang. If you don't want to be called it don't use it, this is in relation to a friend if anyone calls u that go ahead and trash them ;)

I hope it dies out to avoid more situations like the one in the vid

Yusayoh
May 2nd, 2006, 08:06 PM
I watched it and I sort of believe the teacher. If he was using it just so that black people would be comfortable talking to him, then it's fine. Although, we have no idea if the kid said it first or not.

gakekuroi
May 3rd, 2006, 08:10 PM
Well depends how u look at it , white ppl are a majority here ,so its seems like the bigger guy is pickin on the little guy,but when a minority aka. black calls us a racial names its like fighting back. But back to the Q i say both not in a racist way and i try to make sure when i say that if im near a afro friend or person if that doesnt offend him.

FinalDragoon
May 3rd, 2006, 08:19 PM
But because whites used the word back in the day to demean us they don't want it to come out of your mouths now. That's really the only reason. The thing is that I don't understand is why you worry so much about saying it. If you wanna say it so bad say it, if you get beat up...tuff.


Exactly, I believe the word was intended to degrade and insult slaves. Having friends of African American heritage I refrain from using the word, not to mention for the sake of political correctness.

And African Americans being able to use the word, double standards - but legit double standards. The term was used by slavedrivers to degrade them, they can use it to get eachothers attention. I call my white friends crackers all the time... and Brian (who happens to be hispanic) a cracker.