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SoC Kemaro
May 5th, 2006, 01:01 PM
Euthanasia is the act or practice of killing hopelessly sick or injured individuals (as persons or domestic animals) in a relatively painless way for reasons of mercy. It tends to include assisted suicides.

Should it or should it not be allowed? Euthanasia is looked down upon legally, and most times it just gets turned into a murder case.

-Dr. Jack Kevorkian got away with eight years with Euthanasia by helping older citizens kill themselves with his machine, and was charged at first for providing the machine. (he eventually went to jail for giving a lethal injection, even though the subject was willing) Some people say that it's wrong for him to go to jail if he had the full support of the man AND his family- the man also had a painful and incurable disease. Dr. Kevorkian gave the injection himself because the man was physically unable to do it himself.

-In hospitals, doctors ask the family if they want to continue giving treatment to a patient in the case of terminal or in painful uncurable diseases. Which suggests that the person will die. It's sometimes considered Euthanasia by indirectly killing the person to relieve them of pain.

Is it humane or is it senseless? It's argued that people have the right to die and choose how they want to die- but does that mean that if someone helped them, can it be considered murder?

FinalDragoon
May 5th, 2006, 04:42 PM
Crap, I typed three paragraphs and it all got deleted. >_<


So I'm going to sum it up and elaborate when I'm not demoralized and lazy.


I say legalize it. It's not right to let a chlid live a horrible life, that's more inhumane then killing it. Unless you want to let your child be miserable for 30+ years of it's life.

Kimeru
May 5th, 2006, 05:25 PM
It is humane, but, in this world, humane doesn't mean legal.

I saw this doctor's case on TV, some time ago.

Yusayoh
May 6th, 2006, 03:41 PM
I say legal as long as the family and the person wants it to happen.

LegendGenesis
May 6th, 2006, 09:36 PM
Its a little too much like playing God. I'd just like to stay away from it completely

KaitenV
May 7th, 2006, 12:51 PM
Its a little too much like playing God. I'd just like to stay away from it completely
Killing someone is hardly playing god, humans have been doing it since we were humans. Saying killing is being God means are are also saying having birth is playing God.

This is hardly right, I mean, no one has the right to kill anyone even if they are given permission.

Darksage
May 7th, 2006, 03:40 PM
Why dont we have the right to? because only God does? Your argument loops back to what LegendGenesis says but you disagreed...

Kimeru
May 7th, 2006, 05:06 PM
Why dont we have the right to? because only God does? Your argument loops back to what LegendGenesis says but you disagreed...
Indeed.

Even if putting God into this is not the best way to make an argument.

KaitenV
May 7th, 2006, 06:53 PM
Why dont we have the right to? because only God does? Your argument loops back to what LegendGenesis says but you disagreed...
No, I believe it's best to keep God out of this because he is a being far above our selves. I do not even believe a human has the right to consent, our lives to not belong to us.

If you are a religious person your life is your gods. If you are not, your life belongs to the ones around you. No man has the right to take life from another in any situation because it is not his to take. Killing is wrong whether it be justified, mercy, man slaughter, mistake, or murder.

wancs1
May 8th, 2006, 12:03 AM
Killing is wrong whether it be justified, mercy, man slaughter, mistake, or murder.


i agree with kaiten on this

Alister
May 8th, 2006, 12:34 AM
It depends...

For example, I might see it as 'alright' if someone is laying in a hospital bed, going to die within a week, experiencing unimaginable pain, and they ask someone to pull the plug.

Would you really hate that person for doing it?

gakekuroi
May 8th, 2006, 01:20 AM
Well i wouldnt say if the family wants it ,What if you wanted to die because you have some disease thats causes you so much pain but your family argues for u to live or the opposite way you want to live but your family wants you to die.

One thing i dont understand is how at a hospital can pull the cord on a person and kill them which is Euthanasia if u think about it.

I do agree killing is wrong though since the start of man kind we've been killing each other for our own personal gains or over some ideals.

Its all based on circumstances like Alister said.

Alister
May 8th, 2006, 01:24 AM
If it is costing 50,000 dollars a day to keep the person alive and there is no chance of survival and the patient is in a comatose state, should the family be able to decide?

A lot of my views were somewhat altered after listening to (I hate to say, however it is a song worth listening to for the words) Metallica's 'One', which is a song about a man who is blown up by a bomb/grenade in a war. He can survive, however he has no legs, no arms, he can't see, he can't speak, he can't hear, he is a piece of meat that can think.

gakekuroi
May 8th, 2006, 01:28 AM
Thats a good song .
yah its best to look at the hole pie then just a piece, I see what you mean now thats a lot of money for someone thats going to die anyway ,but what if they had the chance of living if they kept paying that would that option still come up?

Alister
May 8th, 2006, 01:39 AM
Well, should the family just not be involved at all unless on a voluntary basis, and the patient's funds be depleted and once they have no more money, the plug is pulled?

We are getting into a whole different situation here though. I believe this thread was more-so about if say, your friend sitting beside you begs you to kill them - should you do it? Should you be able to?

I definitely think that if someone is terminal and has very little or no chance of survival and is in a comatose state, then yes, the person paying for the treatment should be able to decide whether to pull the plug or not.

I DON'T however think that you should be able to kill and able-bodied person upon a request from them.

If someone that is NOT able-bodied requests that their life be ended, I think their will should be done.

gakekuroi
May 8th, 2006, 01:46 AM
True that :)

did get off topic there :p

wancs1
May 8th, 2006, 03:33 AM
Lets cut to the chase and come up with a vote. Are you willing to end you beloved one's life if it comes to that? thats the ultimate question

ypur mother or father
siblings
husband/wife
think about it and answer whether Euthanasia is the answer

Im sticking with my answer the answer is no. There's a reason for someone's suffer but its not my right to end my father/mother/siblings life if it comes to that and im sure my family will feel the same way as i am.

please answer not with facts and logic. answer using your heart whether its right or wrong becoz this is people's life and that life is your beloved ones

gakekuroi
May 8th, 2006, 09:02 PM
Id do it , I just put my dog down 4 days ago , for the fact she had cancer head to tail and it already had inveloped her liver and practically the rest of her organs ,there was no doubt she was going to die , so i made that choice to put her down to stop her pain she obviously was in.

wancs1
May 8th, 2006, 10:58 PM
Tough call there, the choice you made was it easy or hard or it was practical, i would not have the guts to do it to anybody even my dog/cats/pets

Darksage
May 9th, 2006, 08:55 PM
Well, should the family just not be involved at all unless on a voluntary basis, and the patient's funds be depleted and once they have no more money, the plug is pulled?

We are getting into a whole different situation here though. I believe this thread was more-so about if say, your friend sitting beside you begs you to kill them - should you do it? Should you be able to?

I definitely think that if someone is terminal and has very little or no chance of survival and is in a comatose state, then yes, the person paying for the treatment should be able to decide whether to pull the plug or not.

I DON'T however think that you should be able to kill and able-bodied person upon a request from them.

If someone that is NOT able-bodied requests that their life be ended, I think their will should be done.
Mmhmm. I agree.

Turaizuru-san
May 11th, 2006, 09:23 PM
Interesting that I would come across this thread today...

I elected to have my cat euthanized today after he was diagnosed with active feline leukemia and given less than a week to live.

Am I at fault for giving him a painless death? (He was put to sleep by anesthetic injection)

Should I have let him suffer and wither away in pain?

Think about it if you choose to. I sleep with a heavy conscience only because I didn't get him vaccinated when he was a kitten.

Applying this to humans...

I value life. However, to prolong someone's suffering, especially if s/he is in pain, is selfish. I know firsthand how difficult it is to lose a loved one (a human, in this case) to a degenerative disease. While I did not make the decision to remove the life support, I hold no grudge to those that did make the choice. If you truly love someone, you will put aside your own desire to spend more time with them and let them be at peace.

Boris The Blade
May 25th, 2006, 10:56 AM
People who are teminally ill are going to die sooner or later, at hands of the doctor or in the bed of their loved one's homes.

Fact of the matter is, doctors are guilty either way, because they are unable to cure it. If not, they might as well relieve the pain of the person, because that in sense, is helping the person. A "cure", if you will, since they are most likely going to a better place.

Killing is wrong; killing out of mercy is something I'd do hands down if the choice was presented in front me. You can think of me as an emotionless bastard, but imagine. If you were so ill, and in such pain, and I had a gun in my hand, would you ask? Would you truly ask me to pull it? Anyone would.