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DeSiReS
Jan 16th, 2005, 09:25 PM
lol i dunno But i had about a 2 hr convo with Hellpire and Hasu(SC friend) about this lol and We know our points in View i wanna here some of yours ^^...


P.S. Now i know this can be a touchin Subject but just so you know don't take anything someone in here says to serioulsly cuz as i said i want your points of view witch everyone has a diff way of lokin at it

Karen07
Jan 18th, 2005, 02:09 AM
Gasps lord no we cannot talk about Religion.... Gee wheres your head at... lol. You know i'm just kidding with you lol. I don't know if we can talk about religion really but i don't think we can so i won't comment much on it. Remember if it's not pg13 the post will be closed, or I think it will. I'm not really sure lol, anyway Desires i gotta talk to you -.-' ut O

DeSiReS
Jan 18th, 2005, 02:57 PM
lol Hell asked me to come on and talk about something like this lol :P so of corse its alowd

James
Jan 18th, 2005, 04:07 PM
This is what I believe.

It's all bullshit.

God? If they're was a god. YOU WOULD HAVE F*CKING HELPED ME.

So I don't believe all that mumbo jumbo. Different religions are something that some dumbshit made up so many years ago, so that he can screw us over and make us believe something so he would be famous. And they knew people would believe it, since they where dumb *** hell, and that people in the future would believe it too, since many people believed it so many years ago.

Now we have to live with this crap, and suffer from it.

If you have anything to say to this commenting tword you calling me a liar and need to read some books or some crap to waste my time. I won't care to what you slur back, you will be wasting your time.

Karen07
Jan 18th, 2005, 05:20 PM
Hm so then what are your opinions on the earths creation, or i should say how you believe it was created. Do you think that it always existed and blah blah?
Nah I won't call you a liar you believe in what you want. Whos to say you have to be bound to something forever?

Rock Solid
Jan 18th, 2005, 08:08 PM
This is what I believe.

It's all bullshit.

God? If they're was a god. YOU WOULD HAVE F*CKING HELPED ME.

So I don't believe all that mumbo jumbo. Different religions are something that some dumbshit made up so many years ago, so that he can screw us over and make us believe something so he would be famous. And they knew people would believe it, since they where dumb *** hell, and that people in the future would believe it too, since many people believed it so many years ago.

Now we have to live with this crap, and suffer from it.



I agree 99.9 % with you. I just think that the whole bible thing is fake. someone just made it up and made us think it is true. and everybody has there own religion and if there was a real God than everybody would have the same religion. and I am more toward the scientist theories. and I believe that there is other life rather than us out here.

CK
Jan 18th, 2005, 08:09 PM
im christan and i do belive there is a god


my parents go to a church that pretty much says if it makes u feel good do it im against that :nomore:

Karen07
Jan 18th, 2005, 08:14 PM
Quote:
I agree 99.9 % with you. I just think that the whole bible thing is fake. someone just made it up and made us think it is true. and everybody has there own religion and if there was a real God than everybody would have the same religion. and I am more toward the scientist theories. and I believe that there is other life rather than us out here.

Not 100%, a bit of doubt i see? Wheres the other .1% leaning toward?

Nori
Jan 18th, 2005, 08:22 PM
I agree 99.9 % with you. I just think that the whole bible thing is fake. someone just made it up and made us think it is true. and everybody has there own religion and if there was a real God than everybody would have the same religion. and I am more toward the scientist theories. and I believe that there is other life rather than us out here.

Iight since i feel the need to blow someone up. How is the Bible fake when there are many non-christian sources that talk about the works and assention of Christ and the Bible. First off non-believers would have no reason to talk about any thing that happened in the bible unless it actually happened..am I right. Since the bible is so fake then why was this country based on it. And also if Jesus christ was fake, why would so many people be willing to be killed because of him? because they're crazy..neva dat

so n e way I believe in God...

Rock Solid
Jan 18th, 2005, 08:22 PM
I believe somewhat in the supernatural so in a way I think that there may be a God. But what my theory is that another civilization of creatures threw us here. but that is a very slim chance. like if you have watched scifi channel there is a series there that is pretty cool which I can't think of the name. and I have also seen other scifi movies where aliens from Mars evacuated Mars and went to Earth. but I am a scifi freak. but I still have a slim belief in God at least. and I am no Satan worshippor. .1% but to make you feel happy I was Baptised and I did occasionally go to church with my grandma when I was younger.

Jester
Jan 18th, 2005, 08:54 PM
i am christian, but do not actively practice it (as in going to church, confessing, taking communion...etc)
i still believe in god tho

Nori
Jan 19th, 2005, 06:42 PM
why is this?

Jester
Jan 19th, 2005, 07:12 PM
i jus dont reallly have time to go to church and no one forces me to go. i probably will tho when i actually have a structured life.

Nori
Jan 19th, 2005, 07:23 PM
i gotcha

jthm12345
Jan 19th, 2005, 07:24 PM
im same as jester but i dont wanna go instead of not have time

James
Jan 19th, 2005, 07:46 PM
If the world was created by god or whatever, then I think things would be alot more stable then things are now.

I believe that earth has always been there. I don't know how it was created.. Physiologically and Scientifically the world couldn't have been created by one person. If so, why did he create the other planets? Why didn't he give us the technology to get to the other planets? Before earth was created, where was he, and how did he make it?

For all we now, this planet is one mechanical ball.

This is why I don't believe in jesus, god, whatever, and think all religions are scams, fake and bullshit.

The bible? Made by an idiot. Wants to fill our heads with crap... And I do have to say, it worked.

Nori
Jan 19th, 2005, 08:48 PM
Iight i'm gonna attempt to answer your questions.

The earth is in the state it is now because God gives us free will and does not make us do anything that you don't want to do. He gives you a choice and if you wish to be taken over by your flesh then thats your fate and your conviction.

Alot of Physiologically and Scientifically is just alot of bullshit, also the world wasn't created by one person it was created by an omnicient, and omnipresent spirit. God is not a person he is a spirit. Jesus was not just a man he was 100% man and 100% God if you are trying to say that Jesus was just a man that did good works.

The other planets stuff I really don't know, and I'm pretty sure the technology wasn't given to us to get to these planets either because someone hasn't been blessed with the skills to figure out how to get to these planets or there is something on those planets that isn't ment for us to know about, which actually kinda answers your other question.

Also before the Earth was created he was just there, that's not really even a matter to be discussed. How he made it read Genesis 1

How is it a scam, really its far from it except in many cases with catholics (no offense) alot of there view of the religion was money and that was it like the crap about buying *literally* your way into heaven. But because of this many other denominations of the religion were formed because they didn't believe in the ways of the catholics.

How is the bible made by an idiot? The bible is made by more than 1 person so all of them are idiots.

So if the Bible is fake and all the things that are in are fake and just stories, why did other scholars right about many of the things that happened in the Bible.

Here's an example of one "miracle" that happened in the Bible that can't be faked. Jesus raises Lazerus from the dead. Lazerus was dead for 3 days before Jesus came to see him burried in a tomb and stuck to high heaven. This was at a funeral meaning that many others were there including non-christians and your so called "idiots". So how can that be faked. IT CAN'T!!!

So have I answered your questions and your untrue facts or must I go on?

Mystic-Spirit
Jan 19th, 2005, 09:32 PM
This is what I believe.

It's all bullshit.

God? If they're was a god. YOU WOULD HAVE F*CKING HELPED ME.

So I don't believe all that mumbo jumbo. Different religions are something that some dumbshit made up so many years ago, so that he can screw us over and make us believe something so he would be famous. And they knew people would believe it, since they where dumb *** hell, and that people in the future would believe it too, since many people believed it so many years ago.

Now we have to live with this crap, and suffer from it.

If you have anything to say to this commenting tword you calling me a liar and need to read some books or some crap to waste my time. I won't care to what you slur back, you will be wasting your time.

..so tell men O GREAT AND POWERFUL JAMES how did we get here?

James
Jan 19th, 2005, 09:35 PM
First of all, NONE of this can be proven true. So they are not facts, they are peopls opinions and judgement on what happened that they believe. My 'questions' are not questions that can be answered with supporting facts that prove they are true, yet on what people can say that are their opinions.

Oh and on the miracle thing.. Yeah, it can't be faked. It can be, non-existant. So none of this ever happened.

How do you know it its all true, and that everything is real. Were you there? You don't, someone told you, you read it in a book, you where brought up from your parents being tought this stuff, so that when you get older you would believe it.

What I think and believe is what I think happened and what I believe. Their is a huge possibliy that it's not true.. Yet the same thing goes to what everyone else believes. We don't know if its true.

Oh, and you can go on if you want with your opinions. won't help though.

James
Jan 19th, 2005, 09:37 PM
..so tell men O GREAT AND POWERFUL JAMES how did we get here?
Reproduction.

Please don't be a smart ***.

Rock Solid
Jan 19th, 2005, 09:38 PM
maybe this is all just a dream........:nuked:

James
Jan 19th, 2005, 09:40 PM
Lets find out. Kill yourself.


.... You go first.

Rock Solid
Jan 19th, 2005, 09:41 PM
do you think I am that stupid? no way. maybe this is just an alternate reality.

James
Jan 19th, 2005, 09:42 PM
Ok... Jump off your house.

... and... you go first..

Mystic-Spirit
Jan 19th, 2005, 09:44 PM
Also there was a saint nune known as st. teresa(this Miracle is a 100% true)she was of religion or idiots like you put it..ill just skip to the interesting part after she died(as you know most bodies decay after time of a non mental state after death)..but the funny thing was after many years of her death her body never decayed just kept as it was when she first died this can be found somewhere in France btw..the point is there are flaws in religion but there are also MANY flaws in your theory...so i hope you shut up and open your mind 1 day you Athese and yes i belive in god im a catholic..

Rock Solid
Jan 19th, 2005, 09:46 PM
i just like talking about this stuff. it makes me wonder what is true and what is not. but I am a christian.

James
Jan 19th, 2005, 09:48 PM
Also there was a saint nune known as st. teresa(this Miracle is a 100% true)she was of religion or idiots like you put it..ill just skip to the interesting part after she died(as you know most bodies decay after time of a non mental state after death)..but the funny thing was after many years of her death her body never decayed just kept as it was when she first died this can be found somewhere in France btw..the point is there are flaws in religion but there are also MANY flaws in your theory...so i hope you shut up and open your mind 1 day you Athese and yes i belive in god im a catholic..
Did you type something? I'm sorry, for some reason I was reading it. But all i read from it was Bullshit over and over again.

Heh.

Again, ignorance clouds your minds again. That or, you don't have one.

You say its true, yet all I hear its words. Nothing to prove it.

Rock Solid
Jan 19th, 2005, 09:53 PM
ya really. can you prove it? was this in one of your dreams? did anyone do any odtopsies on the body? If the body was still together like that then they must have 'somehow' preserved it. or it is a fake doll.

Mystic-Spirit
Jan 19th, 2005, 09:53 PM
Also you don't believe a god cause he doesn't spend every second hover over your life to fix a few riples in your life?..Thats what free-will is for a choice if you want to be a stupid athese be a stupid athese when your time comes and you die you will see how your fate ends..just because god isn't in a body full of flesh a mortal human being you see at school or someone you see everyday..and trust me im not "Idiot"A normal human being only uses 15% of there mind..I use more..

Rock Solid
Jan 19th, 2005, 09:56 PM
maybe all this religion stuff is a coverup.

Mystic-Spirit
Jan 19th, 2005, 09:59 PM
well duh they are gonna preserve it there not gonna throw a body in a garbage and i swear i probably have twice as much character than you james you talk about ignorance...i atleast open my mind to opinions and open the flaws in it not like the little sh*t your acting like right now...

BULLSH*T!Bullsh*t!bullsh*t!and bullsh*t!thats all you've talked about in all your post in this topic...which is the same thing i think when i read your post in this thread..

Rock Solid
Jan 19th, 2005, 09:59 PM
maybe it is a coverup of our 'true' existence. maybe the truth is horrible. and if it would be leeked out then there would widespread panic. but my point is that there are too many questions and so little time.

Nori
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:00 PM
all i've hurd you say is it's all bullshit and you haven't proven yourself in any way...so how is it bullshit because u dont believe it, its bullshit, actually you not believeing without out any reason for no reason is bullshit...so before u say somethin please get your facts straight because everything u've said so far is total bullshit.

Rock Solid
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:00 PM
how old was the nuns body?

Mystic-Spirit
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:04 PM
coverup?we are not talking about the government...thats there job..we are talking about ordinary people like you or me that belive in something and james thinks there idiots just because the do not share his same point of view?Who are you as an ordinary person to judge who ios stupid,fat,ugly,or anything they may make unwise decisions but that doesn't mean they are plain stupid you are no better than us..and rock an estimate of 100 years after her death.

James
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:07 PM
Also you don't believe a god cause he doesn't spend every second hover over your life to fix a few riples in your life?..Thats what free-will is for a choice if you want to be a stupid athese be a stupid athese when your time comes and you die you will see how your fate ends..just because god isn't in a body full of flesh a mortal human being you see at school or someone you see everyday..and trust me im not "Idiot"A normal human being only uses 15% of there mind..I use more..
Ugh.

First off, its Athiest. The idiotic nonsense that I keep reading from you is annoying, aside from the fact what you say, keeps repeating and you judge people on your beleifs when you don't know sqat about anything about them.

First off all, NO your not right, that is not why I don't believe in him.

I know people that havn't been there for me, helped me, fixed problems or make them better for me, yet I know they are real. And just because they do these things does not mean I do not believe in their existence. I don't believe in him is because upawn my beliefs, I do not believe in him.. Not that he doesn't fix every shitty moment I don't like, or make me what I want to be, or get me what I want.

Do us a favor. Shut up, you don't know as much as you think you do.

Nori
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:09 PM
Not that he doesn't fix every shitty moment I don't like, or make me what I want to be, or get me what I want.


wait repeat that part..cause i think u messed up but i want 2 make sure...

Mystic-Spirit
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:11 PM
This is what I believe.

It's all bullshit.

God? If they're was a god. YOU WOULD HAVE F*CKING HELPED ME.

So I don't believe all that mumbo jumbo. Different religions are something that some dumbshit made up so many years ago, so that he can screw us over and make us believe something so he would be famous. And they knew people would believe it, since they where dumb *** hell, and that people in the future would believe it too, since many people believed it so many years ago.

Now we have to live with this crap, and suffer from it.

If you have anything to say to this commenting tword you calling me a liar and need to read some books or some crap to waste my time. I won't care to what you slur back, you will be wasting your time.

hmm...well you should've backed up your opinion when you first said that read the first sentence in your first post in this topic..im not so idiotic but im not also a genius but nether are you..

James
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:12 PM
coverup?we are not talking about the government...thats there job..we are talking about ordinary people like you or me that belive in something and james thinks there idiots just because the do not share his same point of view?Who are you as an ordinary person to judge who ios stupid,fat,ugly,or anything they may make unwise decisions but that doesn't mean they are plain stupid you are no better than us..and rock an estimate of 100 years after her death.

... Repeating...

I never said that people that don't believe in what I believe are idiots.

I said the people that spread all this shit long ago and wrote all this are idiots. Since, literaly they where back then. If you shit in your hand and made it harden, called it Hard Chocolate, they most likely would believe that it was. They knew that people would believe what they wrote would be true. Thats why I called them idiots.

Xanadu
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:13 PM
everybody forgets that god doesnt control the world he put the fate of it to the Devel....james im sry ppl havent been there for u and ppl havent been there for me either but i know that god is always here for me and im sry that ur life is so empty and pathedic im sry is that what u want to here u want pitty right? sooooo i gave it to u.....

Mystic-Spirit
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:14 PM
Well..just to puzzle with your mind one of those "idiots"may have been your ancesters..

James
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:15 PM
wait repeat that part..cause i think u messed up but i want 2 make sure...
Ah, yes I see I did.

"not that he DOESNT"

Rock Solid
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:15 PM
finally someone told him that it is athiest. and also 100 years isn't too long. so it is possible that it didn't decay as much. if it was in a casket it might of been possible. but if there were bugs and such eating her.....

Nori
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:16 PM
But others wrote about the same things as alot of the things written in the Bible that don't believe that Jesus is God. Also your comment about me being raised in the stuff that was said...guess what I wasn't. Anyway back to what I was saying, the people that don't believe in God wrote of miracles and other events impossible for any man to do.

And also your stuff about us just being there and reproduction. What did we originally reproduce from?

Rock Solid
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:18 PM
the answer to your question Nori may be 'Evolution' also Mystic we all are related somehow if you think about it.

James
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:19 PM
Well..just to puzzle with your mind one of those "idiots"may have been your ancesters..

Wouldn't care.

*your post before this one*

What? What you just typed.. does not make sense..

And, I never said you where, and I never said I was... AGAIN, judging.

James
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:24 PM
the answer to your question Nori may be 'Evolution' also Mystic we all are related somehow if you think about it.
Thank you!

Men could have been evolved from something different.

Other type of living things, such as ET's (aliens), could have cloned us. Changed the DNA and you don't know what else. Breeding in there labratory, like i've been trying to say for everything, we don't know.

EDIT - not saying that I believe in aliens but who knows.

Nori
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:26 PM
Iight thats your conviction. I guess we'll all see in the end :sleep:

James
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:27 PM
Iight thats your conviction. I guess we'll all see in the end :sleep:
Oh really? And when is this so called 'end'? Would your god like to tell me?

Rock Solid
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:27 PM
really think about the evolution part where we may have evolved from apes or something. just like other living things become different in nature. and even the Alien theory that james and I have talked about could be true. but some things are better left unanswered I guess.

Nori
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:29 PM
were done with the evolution stuff man...

Knowone knows the day or the hour that he's coming back for us, but with a mind set like yours it won't matter for you unless you have a real change of heart and soul soon.

Rock Solid
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:32 PM
if there is an apocalypse I would prefer for God to save us. oh also if you haven't noticed we are bringing about our own demise with the pollution, over population, and diminishing forests and such. also the smoking, and all that other crap. so we need some kind of a miracle.

James
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:35 PM
There is nothing wrong with my heart and soul. There is for people that can't accept people for who they are and what they believe.

Rock Solid
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:39 PM
There is nothing wrong with my heart and soul. There is for people that can't accept people for who they are and what they believe.
everybody is different. and noone believes exactly the same things. and they don't have the same dislikes. so everybody's hearts are in what they believe. OK!! if you think you are Superman than go ahead and save the world or try and destroy it. but it is not my part to say that you are going to Heaven or Hell. so yeah.....

Nori
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:39 PM
no its actually not but as i said before don't worry about..if you dont have an open mind to even try to believe it then it doesn't effect you at all

edit: rock solid..where are you coming from with this stuff o_O

Rock Solid
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:41 PM
whatever pops into my head.

James
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:43 PM
Alright.. I'm done with this.. It's annoying as hell, and I'm gunna stop talking before some other idiot proves he knows nothing.

Rock Solid
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:45 PM
we need somebody elses opinion. this is a good debate thread.

CK
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:48 PM
all i've hurd you say is it's all bullshit and you haven't proven yourself in any way...so how is it bullshit because u dont believe it, its bullshit, actually you not believeing without out any reason for no reason is bullshit...so before u say somethin please get your facts straight because everything u've said so far is total bullshit.


:yell: i agree with every thing nori has said 100%


and if this whole world has made it on reproduction where did the first 2 people come from?

James
Jan 19th, 2005, 11:00 PM
How do you know there where only 2 people? How do you know they where straight? hey could have been gay!

Like we said... evolution.

CK
Jan 19th, 2005, 11:15 PM
evoulition is a bunch of bull shit because if there was evoultion we would still be morphing and no human has evovled in the last thousand years

and dont try all this psychic bull shit either

just face it there is a god

James
Jan 20th, 2005, 12:11 AM
Scientifically, reproduction and evolution are semi-related.

And don't think a bunch of cursing will try and prove your more correct then anyone else. Then I can do the same.

God is a bullshit lie. Its hard to face the non-existant.

Mystic-Spirit
Jan 20th, 2005, 08:02 AM
Yes but Evolution is also another theory with flaws as how did evolution start with?

Mystic-Spirit
Jan 20th, 2005, 08:15 AM
Your the bullsh*t lier james your the 1 who saying if they don't share your point of view you don't accept as they are and you call them idiots and if your saying you didn't call people idiots read back on some of your post in this thread..they spreaded so people could look up to something when you think about it miracles or "Hokes pokes crap to you"proved his existense.I'm not saying you don't have to believe every word we say but with no soul and an arrogant heart full of your own cockyness will make you end up with a sad future(unless you don't believe in the 4th dimension:time either..)everything in biology is a theory...so dont think you know whats gonna happen after Death just because it hasn't been recorded in a science book so i rest my case!

cknapp and nori made very good points unlike the usual childish Bullsh*t word you have been saying this whole thread..james

James
Jan 20th, 2005, 05:07 PM
Dude, just shut up, your not even reading my posts correctly, or atleast understanding to what I say in my post since you continue to say the same dumb thing. Then you all get pissed off and curse at me since you're running out of things to say. I'm done with this topic, some people don't even know how to have a civilized conversation.

DeSiReS
Jan 20th, 2005, 05:13 PM
This is what I believe.

It's all bullshit.

God? If they're was a god. YOU WOULD HAVE F*CKING HELPED ME.

So I don't believe all that mumbo jumbo. Different religions are something that some dumbshit made up so many years ago, so that he can screw us over and make us believe something so he would be famous. And they knew people would believe it, since they where dumb *** hell, and that people in the future would believe it too, since many people believed it so many years ago.

Now we have to live with this crap, and suffer from it.

If you have anything to say to this commenting tword you calling me a liar and need to read some books or some crap to waste my time. I won't care to what you slur back, you will be wasting your time.

ok lol i understand that you don't believe in it but come on do you need to say shit in such harsh words ?? comeon are you a asshole or do you just wanna get flamed cuz ppl take this serious. and if god was real he'd have help "you"? why are you so slefish? lol saying he should have helped you and if you know nothing about religion or have even atemted to read about it plaz don't post cuz you useless to this topic.. :silence:

lol sry took me solong to post back on this just i was away and ill post more later after i finished readin lol just i was realy angre that someone would be such an ***..

Mystic-Spirit
Jan 20th, 2005, 05:54 PM
Dude, just shut up, your not even reading my posts correctly, or atleast understanding to what I say in my post since you continue to say the same dumb thing. Then you all get pissed off and curse at me since you're running out of things to say. I'm done with this topic, some people don't even know how to have a civilized conversation.

cursing...?listen to your own post in this thread and compare how much i cursed from yours your so freakin' childish..I swear i said what i had to say have perfect back up opinions and everything..and you make a comeback back with 1 word:

BullSh*t..i must say you must have an IQ of 200 to be that smart to make such a convincing speech to your theory i applause you to be a person with an intelligent mind to show me i was wrong..and with only 1 word im speechless!...now since you can final shut up i will stop acting like an *** cause then ill be turning into to you...

CK
Jan 20th, 2005, 06:34 PM
Dude there was times i felt like he wasnt there for me either and if u think u have a hard life u got nothing compared to mine

i got a stepdad
ive moved 14 times
a crack head for a brother
im fixing to have to move again
im gonna loose my job with this no move so dont think u got such a hard life
oh and also your home schooled(lucky u)
im being sent off to rockhurst privet schools

Mystic-Spirit
Jan 20th, 2005, 06:42 PM
Me i have a hard life two but nothing compared to cknapp

my parents have no time for me mom works 2 jobs my dad works 1
we have no insurence
we are almost dead poor
I have to go to school and listen to Jack@$$'es everyday oh..and im not talking about the teachers
and no this can't be any school no it has to be the 1 school with the highest records of fights ever recorded in hillsborough county hell maybe even the worst in all of Florida..

DeSiReS
Jan 20th, 2005, 07:13 PM
ok lol i'm a religious person but here something i see lol..... first things first i do believe evelution dose have its parts in the world lol but i'd say religion dose too now james alien..... comeon get real are you a moron? plz if theres anyone in here stupider then you plz tell me lol it'd be much liked if you stayed out of this topic....
The bible... humm i agree that it is fake in some ways and some ways its just exagerated.. like some of the bible i believe is just like race lol to big a group of ppl "power"

and for church i myslef dont atend it often lol ^^


p.s to hell lol didn't i say something to you about a topic like this would get outa hand lol and you still told me to post :P bad boy

Nori
Jan 20th, 2005, 07:17 PM
Hey, try to refrain from calling people idiots, stupid, morons, etc. This topic is already a very touchy subject and calling people names isn't helping.

Mystic-Spirit
Jan 20th, 2005, 07:21 PM
I know..

DeSiReS
Jan 20th, 2005, 07:21 PM
sry lol just he getin me pissed i guess i shouldn't do something i basicaly told him not to do....

james sry for the stupid coment..

Jester
Jan 20th, 2005, 07:36 PM
these were the problems with briging up a topic like this. people get too offended. if people continue to call peopel names and (if it starts) having no respect for what people believe in, then im gonna jus close the thread. aite pplz?

CK
Jan 20th, 2005, 07:44 PM
like when me and vegarz where on the gay convo or is ps2 better then xbox

i guess it happens in all debates

DeSiReS
Jan 20th, 2005, 08:11 PM
Jester plz do close this, i was just trying a topic like this cuz hell asked me to but i can see alot of ppl are to inmature(in some ways i guess i'm too inmature also lol puttin down james)

Jester
Jan 20th, 2005, 08:31 PM
fine, closed. if anyone wants it reopend ask me or one of the smods or admins.

Nori
Jan 20th, 2005, 11:18 PM
why did u close it he just appologized -_-'.....kinda

CK
Jan 21st, 2005, 02:24 PM
ok next person to call another person a moron,stupid or sumthing else will be baned for 3 days

so no name calling

Jester
Jan 21st, 2005, 04:03 PM
why did u close it he just appologized -_-'.....kinda

desires asked me to close it and he made the thread. thats y i said if someone wanted it reoppend, jus ask me one of the admins or one of the smods

Nori
Jan 21st, 2005, 06:14 PM
desires asked me to close it and he made the thread. thats y i said if someone wanted it reoppend, jus ask me one of the admins or one of the smods

I see. Well keep it open anyway it may be a touchy subject but as someone else said in here is a good debate, or thing to talk about if you're willing.

Rock Solid
Jan 21st, 2005, 07:22 PM
yeah I said it is a good debate subject. we just need to hear some other persons opinion. because it is just me, james, mystic basically.

Mystic-Spirit
Jan 21st, 2005, 07:23 PM
Yeah true i may have went overboard on debating though im a politic freak i can squeeze the facts and details out of anything..i could be a lawyer..

Swift
Jan 21st, 2005, 10:40 PM
I dont think you should have brought this up, its a sensitive topic.

However for all those who say God is false because you were not helped, you must understand that God only helps someone halfway, you must go the other half yourself. He cannot help someone who does not help themselves. Moreover there is the factor as to whether or not you are a good person or not.

This of course applies only to christians and catholics, if you dont believe in God, then dont try and argue with my religion and try to convert me, i am simply stating my opinion.

Rock Solid
Jan 21st, 2005, 10:46 PM
I dont think you should have brought this up, its a sensitive topic.

However for all those who say God is false because you were not helped, you must understand that God only helps someone halfway, you must go the other half yourself. He cannot help someone who does not help themselves. Moreover there is the factor as to whether or not you are a good person or not.

This of course applies only to christians and catholics, if you dont believe in God, then dont try and argue with my religion and try to convert me, i am simply stating my opinion.

good point for sure

Swift
Jan 21st, 2005, 10:52 PM
as for other topics being disputed:

-I doubt humans evolved from signle celled organism, i just cannot believe that

-Earth created by dust piling together, or rock came out from a bigger rock? possible, i really don't know, it could have been that God simply chose Earth, and made it perfect for us to live in, instead of making it entirely. This is just too vast a topic to come near a solution, trying to explain this is like trying to explain when the universe ends. One thing that just crossed my mind, that would answer alot of this is maybe God is the universe, just crossed my mind =P.

Rock Solid
Jan 21st, 2005, 10:55 PM
as for other topics being disputed:

-I doubt humans evolved from signle celled organism, i just cannot believe that

-Earth created by dust piling together, or rock came out from a bigger rock? possible, i really don't know, it could have been that God simply chose Earth, and made it perfect for us to live in, instead of making it entirely. This is just too vast a topic to come near a solution, trying to explain this is like trying to explain when the universe ends. One thing that just crossed my mind, that would answer alot of this is maybe God is the universe, just crossed my mind =P.
yup. quite possibly. or maybe there are other planets with Gods too. yup. no answer to the universe question.

Mystic-Spirit
Jan 22nd, 2005, 08:33 PM
I dont think you should have brought this up, its a sensitive topic.

However for all those who say God is false because you were not helped, you must understand that God only helps someone halfway, you must go the other half yourself. He cannot help someone who does not help themselves. Moreover there is the factor as to whether or not you are a good person or not.

This of course applies only to christians and catholics, if you dont believe in God, then dont try and argue with my religion and try to convert me, i am simply stating my opinion.

You have put it perfectly..