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Renneme
Jun 21st, 2006, 11:05 PM
A lot of my friends say "nigger/nigga" a lot. They aren't racist, but they say it all the time in virtually no relation. Some black people I know would take great offence to this so my question is, do you think people should avoid potentially offensive words, or do you think that they aren't a big deal if you are just kidding around?
Alister
Jun 21st, 2006, 11:08 PM
I'd think that people should only say them when in the presence of people that would not take it seriously, or people that know that no harm was meant.
In general public though? They shouldn't be said.
Nori
Jun 21st, 2006, 11:38 PM
These days so many people have a problem with everything that it doesn't even matter what is said anymore. Words are word, if you're offended by words STFU and keep it to your damn self because no one cares anymore.
~Nori the black guy's thoughts lol
Atem
Jun 21st, 2006, 11:55 PM
I think they should only say the word when they are joking and when they know that the person they say it to know they're joking and don't take it too seriously.
gakekuroi
Jun 22nd, 2006, 01:38 AM
well its like foul language most the words people use actually mean something completely different for examples fag= cigerate ,fagget=pile of sticks,bitch=female dog
nigga and nigger actually is pretty harsh if a person knows the meaning but is more just a word used in normal speach towards friends then it is used to bring someone down or show bios.Times have changed time for people to get with the times.I do agree its not much of a public word.
bakafish007
Jun 22nd, 2006, 03:16 PM
using words that have roots in hatred don't have any difference from words that have roots in pleasentness. gay=happy until the 50's or 60's. i used to even use that word in that context until i was 13. words are words in the end. it's the intention behind them that can be hurtful
Kimeru
Jun 22nd, 2006, 05:35 PM
using words that have roots in hatred don't have any difference from words that have roots in pleasentness. gay=happy until the 50's or 60's. i used to even use that word in that context until i was 13. words are words in the end. it's the intention behind them that can be hurtful
Indeed. But, even so, there are words you just don't want to hear, n word aside, such as "***-licker", "****-sucker", "****-eater", etc. XD;
And that word you come to mention became a commonly used derrogative, mainly because of all the stupid people and their stupid homophoby. Many words lost context, actually. D:
bakafish007
Jun 22nd, 2006, 11:49 PM
point taken, though i'm sure hillbillies would say the ****-sucker denotes a farm fetish of strange dimensions. (no offense hillbillies)
so if someone uses these so-called "forbidden words", would that mean they have bad aspects to their personality, or is it because they are unable to think in radical ways? or is it that they DO think in radical ways?
Kimeru
Jun 23rd, 2006, 01:41 AM
point taken, though i'm sure hillbillies would say the ****-sucker denotes a farm fetish of strange dimensions. (no offense hillbillies)
so if someone uses these so-called "forbidden words", would that mean they have bad aspects to their personality, or is it because they are unable to think in radical ways? or is it that they DO think in radical ways?
Well, most people just pick up the vocabulary they grow up with. For the most part, it is vulgar. Some people just imitate others' to look "cool", or simply to fit in. Of course, there is also the people that just doesn't give a damn, either way. :D
*cough* Seriously now, most of the students in my school can't get rid of that habit. I didn't really have it to begin with, so I'm pretty much okay. They often hurt the teachers' sensitivity, I have noticed; not that they care enough.
gsv
Jun 27th, 2006, 09:26 PM
It depends on who you are talking to. If you talk this person a lot, and are quite sure that they have no problem with your use of those 'strong' words, then go for it. But even so, there is still the risk that someone will overhear you saying the 'strong' words and take it very offensively. I've seen it happen. Be careful.
But...if you're talking to someone relatively new (in that you haven't spoken to them before, or atleast not frequently), and especially if they're a black person, you won't want to use the term 'nigga'. Sure they might be just fine with it, but why take the risk?
Consensus? Watch what you say, if you can avoid using 'strong' words that can potentially be offensive, do so. :)
-gsv
Darksage
Jul 5th, 2006, 05:45 PM
I say whatevers on my mind. Words are only "forbidden" when they put someone's health or security at risk. You can say nigger and all that crap you want to, but you must also understand no matter what your intentions some people will misinterpret what you said.
Awesomo
Jul 23rd, 2006, 04:14 AM
Words are words, and I keep them at that, but I don't really care whether people say "forbidden" words, I just make fun of what they say because of it. Sometimes it gets them to stop, sometimes they stop being my friend, I laugh either way. So I don't care if they are said in public or not, I personally like the little bleep thing on tv when someone says a curse word, but, I just wish people would treat words with words, and actions with actions.
TheChrisFish
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:03 PM
Words only mean what you emphasize them to mean. Your tone, the words themselves etc. are the only things that should matter, if someone else says that I shouldnt say something of course I will say it, unless I see no point. It doesnt matter how uncomfortable someone is with the terms of a word, they should hold no grudge against the speaker, unless the term was spoken in a derogatory way, in meaning to offend, but in terms of joking around for what purpose should anyone ever be angered? And why should such words ever be Forbode, or Banned because they offend people? That is just ignorance, if a word offends you, leave the topic, its as simple like that, I have my freedom of speech and therefore I can say what I want about anything, no words can be forbidden because words break no laws.
Awesomo
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:07 PM
Not according the Patriot Act. I'm glad the U.S. doesn't have many laws limiting speech.
Alister
Oct 10th, 2006, 11:26 PM
Just to start this up again.
We were talking in class, and our teacher said "if I give you 10 dollars to go buy something that costs 8 dollars, and you don't give me change, what has happened?"
Answers were given, etc.
In the previous class, some had said the word 'gypped' (you may know it as 'jipped') thus I said that, as it came to mind. The teacher called me an ignorant racist as a result.
??
Kimeru
Oct 11th, 2006, 12:06 AM
I'm eager to know what you told her, afterwards.
"But, miss, I WUUUUV BLACK PEOPLE. <3"
Darksage
Oct 11th, 2006, 12:38 PM
:lolsign:
As for the 'n' word, I do believe that there's a difference between 'nigger' and 'nigga'. so when white people say it they (naturally) say it as "nigger", which is the offensive term.
I think no term should be "Forbidden". Racism itself is a form of expression, and it is the existence of narrow-minded opinions that makes well-balanced ones all the better.
Crescent Moon
Oct 11th, 2006, 12:48 PM
I swear and stuff when I'm angry, but I avoid using racial slurs. I can't stand racism! >.<
Kimeru
Oct 11th, 2006, 01:14 PM
:lolsign:
As for the 'n' word, I do believe that there's a difference between 'nigger' and 'nigga'. so when white people say it they (naturally) say it as "nigger", which is the offensive term.
I think no term should be "Forbidden". Racism itself is a form of expression, and it is the existence of narrow-minded opinions that makes well-balanced ones all the better.
If anyone here has happened to be bored, decided to go watch an okay movie, and watched "Everything's Illuminated", they should remember the Ukranian guy asking the American jew, "What's up with those niggers?" "You shouldn't call them like that. It's degrading." "What? Negro?" :D
Cultural differences creating confusion on such terms are hilarious.
Exodi
Oct 11th, 2006, 05:56 PM
I see "nigger" and "nigga" to be the same word, and I actually do not mind it being used around me. Sometimes, I feel like I want to encourage it.
Why? Honestly, rascism is funny.
What I don't like is when someone says "nigger" and other people (who aren't black) get all silent like "uh-oh...what's Steven gonna say?" That makes me feel awkward.
Darksage
Oct 11th, 2006, 06:01 PM
Hmmm... I don't think they are the same word. *shrugs*
Racism is funny? I suppose you could put it like that, but not everyone has the same sense of humor :poketoung
Rapper Tupac Shakur stated, "Nigger - a black man with a slavery chain around his neck; Nigga - a black man with a gold chain on his neck." Demonstrating how the term has evolved significantly over time and that there is a distinction between the implication behind the use of nigga and nigger. In practice, its use and meaning is heavily dependent on context.
L
Oct 11th, 2006, 08:44 PM
FEMA hates niggers.
Yup, I said it.
masrur
Oct 11th, 2006, 09:07 PM
Yeah, i think that words like "nigguh" shouldn't be used unless the people around you are comfortable with u using the word.
FEMA hates niggers.
Yup, I said it.
This maybe a n00by question, but whats FEMA XD.
Alister
Oct 11th, 2006, 09:54 PM
Females Entering Mature Adulthood...
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While on-the-ground, support for disaster recovery is a major part of FEMA's charter, the agency provides state and local governments with experts in specialized fields and funding for rebuilding efforts and relief funds for individual citizens and infrastructure, in conjunction with the Small Business Administration (SBA) FEMA also assists individuals and businesses with low interest loans. FEMA also provides funds for training of response personnel throughout the United States and its territories as part of the agency's preparedness effort.
masrur
Oct 11th, 2006, 10:01 PM
^Gracias for defining yet another word/phrase for me
ieatgluexxx
Oct 12th, 2006, 12:33 AM
here in California, lots of white people say it to each other, when black people aren't around. If they are then only black people can say it to each other. I think it's all dumb, its a derogatory word that should be removed from our lexicon. it's offensive even when used playfully and just plain vulgar.
Alister
Oct 12th, 2006, 12:55 AM
We were talking about your history (U.S.A.) today in class, and about the coolies (Chinese men) who were brought over from China to build railroads.
Our school has a large Chinese population, so I believe she (the teacher) felt the need to explain why she would say a 'racial slur' (coolies). She said that if there isn't a derogatory intent, then it isn't terrible. ie, the Europeans in the US weren't saying "piece of shit coolies ain't fetched my water yet," they were saying "yo coolies" and such.
Agree or disagree? If I say 'sup nigga' or 'sup nig' to a black man in a non-derogatory tone, is that ANY different than saying 'whats up, NIGGER' in a blantantly derogatory tone?
(hopefully no one takes offense to me actually saying the words. hopefully people are mature enough to understand that it is for the purpose of discussion)
masrur
Oct 12th, 2006, 08:56 AM
Most of the people i kno wouldn't mind if racial slurs such as those were used in that context. But there are a few who would sue you for all ur worth just for using the N-word.
ieatgluexxx
Oct 12th, 2006, 09:58 PM
i just dont like the word. Even though it may not be used in a derogatory way, it is still a derogatory term. it's like calling a friend a whore as a joke, it's a joke, but it can still sting and it's still disgusting to hear.
masrur
Oct 12th, 2006, 11:08 PM
^Its more digusting than Bukkake in Nagasaki
Ereos
Oct 21st, 2006, 05:17 PM
well since most friends dont mind u sayin it ... it's cos they know u dont mean it in the racial way and since ur friends u guys shuld know each others motives in what u say to each other so course they wouldnt mind
but if u said it to a complete stranger that it... lol ur gonna get hurt physically like a blow into the face or eye or w/e... or by law... - hence what u said get sued....
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